yea ok, but putting on " counter gear " doesn't make something more of a challenge imo ^

Using not normal setups, makes it more of a challenge because most of the time it's 50/50 u wont win.

It's hard to win with using valordin, since theres mass of lewt circs around for thoses shaft users.

I remember best valordin on east couldn't beat a shaft user, he had no choice went into shaft.

This post was edited by Neko on Jan 26 2012 05:19pm

ok I see what you mean.

yea in that sense, I guess its more of a challenge, but to me, when someone uses that phrase it means they need to "raise their game" to get a positive result but its just semantics i guess^

^^

Gets boring though, using same build like others. I wanted be different, I guess.

well u being amish makes you very different from other people

I still remeber when bren couldnt beat anyone with eshaft, when they released all thoses import circs @ east.

U mean gvalor

and yeah i thought he would slit lol

Yup..meatyy and others told him go shaft

that was a nobrainer imo. shaft with pal vis rips through gvalors like a hot knife in butter.

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