Over the life of a duel the extra max dmg might add more, but it depends on outside sources of open wounds mainly. If you use toothrow, for example.

I admire youe loyalty to help. But even still you cant lead a horse to water

Well, I could do the math on it but I don't particularly feel like running the specific numbers on this right now. Off the cuff, the crushing blow over the course of a 5 hit duel (average damage 8k vs 3500 life) with 15% crushing blow from gores might not ever even go off and if it does it's worth only about 26 damage on average for the total duel (350 * .5 * .15). So the 10 max wins there over 5 hits , closer to 70 dmg on average, not including ds, which can mean an extra 140 if you have 100%, or 127 if you have 81% (angelics). The open wounds damage at lvl 99 is around 600 pvp damage over 8 seconds, so 10% of hits is less than 1 hit actually making ow go off, and if you try to average it anyway it's 30 damage on average (5 * .10 = .5 * 600 = 300 * .10 chance = 30). If the duel lasts more than 8 seconds and you get ow pretty fast then it's obviously worth a lot more than the + max (600 vs 120ish), but on average it isn't.

If you have a better source of ow, like toothrow, then the ow on gores is also pretty useless on average and so the 08 gores win handily.

Note that this is only vs zealots, though. Vs barbs and druids where more life and therefore hits over time are a factor, crushing blow and the timer on open wounds will be far more useful.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Nov 2 2011 11:32pm

zealots suck

lol all i said was lead a horse to water and you reply with math......whats wrong with you



i see you still die to zealots in trav normal on your 80 char

I know it depends on how much other OW sources you have, but in the build he showed on s/s, he was wearing shaft no? And that was hi only source of ow I believe.



Its not 70 damage for 5 hits, is just 45 at best.. which is 90 extra damage including all deadly strike ( assuming like 46% DR ), You'd need like about 3400 ED off weapon to do the damage your talking about i think ^^

While this is "extra damage " , I doubt it'll change the outcome of a duel at all... maybe an ow proc'ing will ( or a cb at the start )

Like I said, I wasn't using actual numbers. But I see that 100 dmg (1000% of 10) is 50 average, which is 50 * .17 * .54 = ~5 average damage, then add 81% ds and ~9 dmg. So yeah, 45ish dmg over a duel. Still more than cb or ow on average (factoring for ow chance over many duels based on hit chance, which is less than 1 hit on average per duel - 10% of 5). Ow wins if it hits early on a lucky roll, otherwise the damage on average from + 10 max, as small as it seems, is still better. That's really all I can say.

edit: but 10% ow is still better than 0% because the luck will sometimes work, and it's better to have a chance of being lucky than to have no chance.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Nov 3 2011 01:48am

I know this, but the point I was making is that this is unlikely to change the amount of hits needed anyway, as u get at most another 100 damage over the course of a duel. Thats about 2 seconds of an OW proc i think. You also have like 120 less base defence too.

Really if 08 gores were renamed " Gore Spurs " and were a normal item that could be obtained as easily as gores, I think everyone would choose normal gores over them, only reason people want this old version to be better is because they are so rare...

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Nov 3 2011 02:16am

Bump

It's almost for skrim.

Jelly