now your just sounding dumb...
go back to MFing shakos and for you sake stay out of GM melee

Deadly strike is double damage

crushing blow takes a certain % off of health bro

yes.. now explain to me why you have less chance of doing a DS when you have less CB, by the same its kinna obvious I meant the chance of DS being constant irrespective of CB bro



God you are a severe case, believe it or not im trying to help u by showing how you most likely overpaid for a crappy item thats making your zeal worse,

yes and im saying your wrong...

Ofc Cb, is first, but how the hell does a CB lower your chance of making a deadly strike... if it does why does the OP recommend steelrends lol as his gloves of choice for many setups oO

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Nov 1 2011 02:26pm

ok, can you find one source that can back this up...

Really the theory behind this is rather simple. CB always casts first, this has been proven, by eliminating all other sources of dmg, ie ow, cb, and stacking Ds, then one would assume the only 2 chances to do dmg would be from normal attack and deadly strike. So removing CB does by default increase your chance to DS more. We first started talking about this back in 2006, it is not certain but it was rumored also that Cb not only cast first, but potentially could take away a Ds strike...

Ok.. I dont fully understand what you meant by "CB always casts first, this has been proven, by eliminating all other sources of dmg" - CB is taken into account before your attack sure, but then when you do your attack - why is that % chance to get a deadly strike less? Are you saying that if you land a CB then you cant land a DS? Seems silly to me, but its a really easy test, cant see how your still uncertain if you were theorising this back in 2006 lol

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30214082&f=87 - this is a guide by Ewya about an uber smiter, look under the open wounds section, where he creates the graph for predicting the time taken to OW - note this is on a smiter with near 100% CB - he seems to have taken no account of CB when calculating the probability of OW proc'ing...

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Nov 1 2011 02:47pm

Because in 2006 when we started talking about it, is when I quit for 5 years

And to be fair, he is talking about PVM not PVP, and there are several more factors to include with this. Like the FHR animation isn't always seen, so that's been in debate for years too, whether or not a Zealer needs more Fhr or not too...just a theory. I am currently working on a DS only build to see how it fairs, there are plenty of zealers around for me to test on...just need a couple more pieces to make the build complete...