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Nov 1 2011 01:24pm
Quote (F150 @ Nov 1 2011 08:01pm)
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/828/08gores.jpg


lookie what i got :bouncy:


i know they are really rare etc, but I dont get why you would use an item thats worse than regular gores...
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Nov 1 2011 01:26pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Nov 1 2011 03:24pm)
i know they are really rare etc, but I dont get why you would use an item thats worse than regular gores...


How do you figure? these have 10 max on them
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Quote (F150 @ Nov 1 2011 08:26pm)
How do you figure? these have 10 max on them


Haven't thoroughly analysed this, but they have less def, no ow , no cb

10 max is sorta shit add - its like 5 extra avg weapon dmg -, ur avg weapon dmg on EDC is like 270..when you factor in the +3 dmg charms in inven, you see that the % gain from 10 max damage is very very little.

The chance to get CB is probably worth more..
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Nov 1 2011 01:55pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Nov 1 2011 12:51pm)
Haven't thoroughly analysed this, but they have less def, no ow , no cb

10 max is sorta shit add - its like 5 extra avg weapon dmg -, ur avg weapon dmg on EDC is like 270..when you factor in the +3 dmg charms in inven, you see that the % gain from 10 max damage is very very little.

The chance to get CB is probably worth more..


crushing blow isn't very good for pvp
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Nov 1 2011 01:56pm
Quote (frothyshoes @ Nov 1 2011 08:55pm)
crushing blow isn't very good for pvp


what do you think im implying about 10 max damage then..?
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Nov 1 2011 01:57pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Nov 1 2011 03:51pm)
Haven't thoroughly analysed this, but they have less def, no ow , no cb

10 max is sorta shit add - its like 5 extra avg weapon dmg -, ur avg weapon dmg on EDC is like 270..when you factor in the +3 dmg charms in inven, you see that the % gain from 10 max damage is very very little.

The chance to get CB is probably worth more..


Addes about 500 to max your math is wrong
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Nov 1 2011 01:58pm
Quote (frothyshoes @ Nov 1 2011 12:55pm)
crushing blow isn't very good for pvp


it is in melee but it's not general overall pvp
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Nov 1 2011 02:07pm
Quote (F150 @ Nov 1 2011 08:57pm)
Addes about 500 to max your math is wrong


Very nice, so your saying your damage is multiplied by 50? That would mean you have like 4900 off weapon ed

Lets look at the edc setup then.. in the guide, the max damage is 7182, now max damage on an EDC with lowest possible ed ( 230 ), is like 351.

Now lets assume no max damage scs, 7182/351 = 20.4 , so in the guide he has at most ~ 1940 off weapon ED.. with that amount of off weapon ED, your 10 max gives like 200 max damage, which is 100 avg damage.

Now lets add in 0.17 pvp penalty, and max dr and its like 8 pvp dmg added.

Compare that to a chance to get about 500 dmg from OW ( normal gores ar your only source of OW i think ), and more def, and now think which one is better...
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Nov 1 2011 02:09pm
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Nov 1 2011 04:07pm)
Very nice, so your saying your damage is multiplied by 50? That would mean you have like 4900 off weapon ed

Lets look at the edc setup then.. in the guide, the max damage is 7182, now max damage on an EDC with lowest possible ed ( 230 ), is like 351.

Now lets assume no max damage scs, 7182/351 = 20.4 , so in the guide he has at most ~ 1940 off weapon ED.. with that amount of off weapon ED, your 10 max gives like 200 max damage, which is 100 avg damage.

Now lets add in 0.17 pvp penalty, and max dr and its like 8 pvp dmg added.

Compare that to a chance to get about 500 dmg from OW ( normal gores ar your only source of OW i think ), and more def, and now think which one is better...


still going with my 08s being better
CB always casts first which DS can stack with CB but will have a lower % chance to
if i have NO CB i will DS more and DS>CB

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Nov 1 2011 02:16pm
Quote (F150 @ Nov 1 2011 09:09pm)
still going with my 08s being better
CB always casts first which DS can stack with CB but will have a lower % chance to
if i have NO CB i will DS more and DS>CB


wtf are you talking more, why would you DS more if you have less CB.. its exactly the same?
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