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Sep 25 2011 01:17am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 25 2011 01:49am)
Yeah, well, the -def% is helpful, but I am willing to bet the fact that it does more damage means your opponents are in FHR a lot more often and therefore not hitting you. Keep in mind, they look like they are swinging at you but they are really blocking or FHRing.


Never even thought about them being in fhr before tbh.
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Sep 25 2011 08:15am
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 25 2011 07:47am)
Yeah I seemed to hit more often with edc too regardless of the setup they used. Which is why edc was always my main wep on any setup. The -%def seems to help out quite a bit.


botd..ETH has -25% targets def, EDC has -33% and the effect is halved for pvp.

66% deadly strike is the big difference.....
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Sep 25 2011 10:14am
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Sep 25 2011 09:15am)
botd..ETH has -25% targets def, EDC has -33% and the effect is halved for pvp.

66% deadly strike is the big difference.....


no the additional -% def does make a diff. I know how they work lol
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Sep 25 2011 10:30am
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 25 2011 05:14pm)
no the additional -% def does make a diff. I know how they work lol


Enlighten me then?

Lets assume you have 20K AR and opponent has 60k def ( if your not happy with these numbers, feel free to reproduce calculations with your own )

with ebotd : 52500 defence
with edc : 50000 defence

lets assume both players are of equal level --> chance to hit with ebotd = 27.6%
---> chance to hit with edc = 28.6 %

so yea i guess its like 3.5 % more chance to hit ( depending on AR and defence ).. but its not a great deal imo
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Sep 25 2011 10:52am
The effects are mare clear in duels. The ds obv makes a big dif but you also hit more often
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Sep 25 2011 10:54am
1.1 is big difference and ds is also big diff also :O
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Sep 25 2011 10:58am
So many pages of debating statistical fact :wacko: you cant change fact how is there debat -.-.-.-.-
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Sep 25 2011 11:13am
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 25 2011 05:52pm)
The effects are mare clear in duels. The ds obv makes a big dif but you also hit more often


why are the effects more clear in duels? Sure with more % chance to hit you have more chance to fhr people etc, but its not that big a difference in chance to hit as i think i showed...

Quote (Neko @ Sep 25 2011 05:54pm)
1.1 is big difference and ds is also big diff also :O


what u mean by 1.1?
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Sep 25 2011 11:16am
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Sep 25 2011 10:13am)
why are the effects  more clear in duels? Sure with more % chance to hit you have more chance to fhr people etc, but its not that big a difference in chance to hit as i think i showed...



what u mean by 1.1?


chance of hit
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Sep 25 2011 11:28am
Quote (Neko @ Sep 25 2011 06:16pm)
chance of hit


oh right, well 28.6 - 27.6 = 1.0 :P

and yea, in percentage terms its a 3.5% increase.. but I cant see how it give THAT much of a difference
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