Quote (Christian_X @ Sep 22 2011 10:42pm)

Newspawns... not even gonna go there, I don't have to prove anything to anyone lol.  Just because you do not remember me back then doesn't mean I wasn't there.  I may not have been as active (near 50 posts per day like you), but I have been here since the start.  I have also taken many breaks and rejoins to this community, and if wanted to could get even more vouches...



Thx

But I won't, cuz who really gives a shit.  No one.

And hating tap?  I absolutely love tap.  In fact, that is why I got so passionate in the suggestion thread.  I only want to see the ladder survive the next few months ahead (which are going to be rough for the melee scene judging by the pace at which it has declined - 15 people left-- recently along with D3 coming out).  I want what is best for the tap ladder so I can have fun participating again.  I want variety again, like in the old days.

I never mean to insult you, personally, and if I did Jess, I apologize.  I was only trying to attack the way in which you handle suggestions in the suggestion thread.

Also, I would appreciate it if you could refrain from talking behind my back in other threads from where an original discussion (or argument) began.

Quote (Christian_X @ Sep 22 2011 08:42pm)

Newspawns... not even gonna go there, I don't have to prove anything to anyone lol.  Just because you do not remember me back then doesn't mean I wasn't there.  I may not have been as active (near 50 posts per day like you), but I have been here since the start.  I have also taken many breaks and rejoins to this community, and if wanted to could get even more vouches...



Thx

But I won't, cuz who really gives a shit.  No one.

And hating tap?  I absolutely love tap.  In fact, that is why I got so passionate in the suggestion thread.  I only want to see the ladder survive the next few months ahead (which are going to be rough for the melee scene judging by the pace at which it has declined - 15 people left-- recently along with D3 coming out).  I want what is best for the tap ladder so I can have fun participating again.  I want variety again, like in the old days.

I never mean to insult you, personally, and if I did Jess, I apologize.  I was only trying to attack the way in which you handle suggestions in the suggestion thread.

Also, I would appreciate it if you could refrain from talking behind my back in other threads from where an original discussion (or argument) began.

Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 22 2011 08:54pm)

Hey who hasn't quit the game and restarted a bunch of times lol. I didn't start dueling in palapk til like .10 I just did pub melee duels in .09 when it was a lot more common. Who were your melees? Was trying to figure out to see if I knew you haha.

Quote (Neko @ Sep 23 2011 03:57am)

Yes, you are newspawn because i've been every CnH, Civic, TGE, Pn tourney on east and i haven't missed one past 6 years+ and used to be in pn every damn daybefore randoms posted on jsp saying pn/1 on jsp and i have not seen or heard of you at all. i know all of the old timers of pn, well most of them :rofl:  no i do not have 50 post per day, i'm still working on that but i prolly won't make it because of school is owning me so much, i have no time for jsp i just come on one awhile and take small breaks from it. Belive me or not, i'm trying get 2x degrees @ USC college and yes, im a nerdy little girl on that note, i don't care about vouches, it means complete nothing to me, to rejoin this community isn't that hard. if you do, you should rehost pn tourneys since pn havent had legitive tourney since almost a yr, well ever since bren bussy with IRL.

speaking my part! no i haven't said anything behind your back if i do ill say it in pms or straght front of your face if i was, it wasn't directed to you if you do take it "offensive" then ir sorry and u got my appologize also. i could appologize to michael also but i dont think he would belive me at all. ~

Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 23 2011 03:54am)

Hey who hasn't quit the game and restarted a bunch of times lol. I didn't start dueling in palapk til like .10 I just did pub melee duels in .09 when it was a lot more common. Who were your melees? Was trying to figure out to see if I knew you haha.

Quote (Christian_X @ Sep 22 2011 11:12pm)

Like I said, just because you do not remember me does not mean I was not there.

Was I as active as other people? No.  Did I join every tourney like you? No.

Did I know what I was doing, and was I good? Yes

You say that vouches mean nothing to you.  Anything that comes out of your keyboard means nothing to me.



My zealot was always either ChristianX or Christian_X

Believe me if you want, say you don't remember me, I don't remember you either.  Perhaps you weren't active when I was.  Who cares? 

I don't doubt you, but if you want to doubt my honesty and integrity, that's your choice.

Attacking my integrity and history is only another attempt to use imaginary authority and clout to push other less active but equally or more knowledgeable members of the melee community (like Michael and myself who also have been here since the beginning) to the side.  Being an admin of a 15 person ladder does not make you have more "power" in the community, or truth behind your words.

I'm done with this discussion here, it is not the appropriate thread, and it is a childish discussion that has no relevance to what began this whole drama. 

Good day everyone

Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 22 2011 11:19pm)

If you weren't in the Paladin Temple and palapk1-10 or however many were up every single day back in 1.09, you aren't as old school as Christian or me. 'Nuff said.

Also, I'd love to see a more well-reasoned discussion of gm/bm rules that are more tailored to the mechanics of the game as they are now, and not as they were 8 years ago.

By well-reasoned, I mean eliminating useless rules and carving out hypocrisy wherever it exists (such as banning cross-class casting items but allowing hellfire torches). There must be a reason for the rules, and not merely "this is how I think they did it in 1.09 but lol I was pubbing so idk" kind of stuff.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 23 2011 04:19am)

If you weren't in the Paladin Temple and palapk1-10 or however many were up every single day back in 1.09, you aren't as old school as Christian or me. 'Nuff said.

Also, I'd love to see a more well-reasoned discussion of gm/bm rules that are more tailored to the mechanics of the game as they are now, and not as they were 8 years ago.

By well-reasoned, I mean eliminating useless rules and carving out hypocrisy wherever it exists (such as banning cross-class casting items but allowing hellfire torches). There must be a reason for the rules, and not merely "this is how I think they did it in 1.09 but lol I was pubbing so idk" kind of stuff.

Quote (Neko @ Sep 23 2011 04:25am)

-shrugs- you dont get it i guess, i never told you nor anyone told i have powers in the community nor i don't want powers for the community..2 yrs ago we had huge meeting and all we did is decissing about how we can make melee better, funner and etc. this is was when melee was a community long time ago before we made UGML this when kwan ruined old one. it was 5 differnt melee guilds was there, could be 6 but we weren't sure about Druid grove atm that time. we made the rules and slowely every time we had problems with the community we usually have huge council with the community. we can't do this anymore because everybody afk and move on with life...but some day, they will come back, i be happy, i guess. i can't just remove them because they did thier time on ugml past 2 yrs, i can't removed them, without them, ugml is nothing.. look, ive been taking care of ugml for a yr because everybody on council is AFK with irl and im trying take care of it when they do come back, yes i do make small mistakes but hey i can't be perfect.

Quote (Christian_X @ Sep 22 2011 09:29pm)

All I ask is that you stop shooting down every suggestion of change or alteration in a rule when people are only trying to add variety and save a hobby that we all love and is dying fast.

Believe me, I appreciate the time you put into running the ladder, I couldn't do it myself.