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Sep 22 2011 12:22am
Quote (Fusa @ Sep 22 2011 01:21am)
i skimmed through it. Ill reply later. At work atm  :angry:


You're a much more active mod than I was :love:
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Sep 22 2011 12:24am
Quote (Fusa @ Sep 21 2011 11:21pm)
i skimmed through it. Ill reply later. At work atm  :angry:


nn amish comments
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Sep 22 2011 12:29am
Quote (Neko @ Sep 22 2011 01:21am)
o.o true


Also the only chars that can leach life back is pallies so poison really hurts furies/concers more.
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Sep 22 2011 12:30am
Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 22 2011 02:16am)
Poison should not become gm lol.

1. It would require checking everyone's charms to make sure they meet the poison cap
2. Poison does a lot more dmg than is on the wep. Brings life replenish to 0 which hurts a bit since dungos, fort etc will get cancelled out so it makes that poison dmg a lot higher. Not to mention each hit adds up the poison dmg.
3. With that logic of allowing poison then grief should be gm since it's banned for the poison (although it's overpowered which should be main reason imo). Would also require checking wep to make sure it's not grief.
4. Other reasons but to tired/lazy to type more.



come at me bro.


1) Do we currently check everyone's charms for fire, lighting, and cold damage since those damage types are also capped at a specific level?
2) Over the course of a 10 second duel, 200 poison damage at max resists will do 8.5 damage (and that's only if a hit connects at the very beginning of a duel and the entire duration is allowed to be carried out. If you factor life replen, you can add maybe 4 extra "damage"
3) Grief was banned because of cross-class skills casting (venom) not poison
4) There are reasons we created the rules we did in 1.09. Those reasons have been lost by the current generation of melee duelers who are much more strict, and pointlessly so, than we ever were when laying the foundational principles of gm melee league dueling
5) Again, hellfire torch does more damage than any other cast or elemental damage type used by characters, period, yet everyone refuses to take them off. Such hypocrisy that someone cannot use a sword with 6 poison damage on it but everyone can use a charm that does 2.4k combined physical and fire damage at point blank range over its duration before resistances and dr are factored.
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Sep 22 2011 12:31am
idonotwanna talk about new generation of melee duelers.

cuz all of them thinks exile is bm. :lol:
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Sep 22 2011 12:34am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 22 2011 01:30am)
1) Do we currently check everyone's charms for fire, lighting, and cold damage since those damage types are also capped at a specific level?
2) Over the course of a 10 second duel, 200 poison damage at max resists will do 8.5 damage (and that's only if a hit connects at the very beginning of a duel and the entire duration is allowed to be carried out. If you factor life replen, you can add maybe 4 extra "damage"
3) Grief was banned because of cross-class skills casting (venom) not poison
4) There are reasons we created the rules we did in 1.09. Those reasons have been lost by the current generation of melee duelers who are much more strict, and pointlessly so, than we ever were when laying the foundational principles of gm melee league dueling
5) Again, hellfire torch does more damage than any other cast or elemental damage type used by characters, period, yet everyone refuses to take them off. Such hypocrisy that someone cannot use a sword with 6 poison damage on it but everyone can use a charm that does 2.4k combined physical and fire damage at point blank range over its duration before resistances and dr are factored.


1. I knew that would be the response tbh but it's still a valid point and it's easier to stack poison on a few charms than other elementals.
2. It adds up each hit
3. If you just went by that exile should be bm too not just grief
4. True
5. Good argument there.

If we allowed poison damage the helm andys would also be aloud since assuming it's bm for psn nova and not cross class skill.

Quote (Neko @ Sep 22 2011 01:31am)
idonotwanna talk about new generation of melee duelers.

cuz all of them thinks exile is bm. :lol:


:lol:

Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 22 2011 01:29am)
Also the only chars that can leach life back is pallies so poison really hurts furies/concers more.


This post was edited by dark-soul on Sep 22 2011 12:35am
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Quote (dark-soul @ Sep 22 2011 02:34am)
1. I knew that would be the response tbh but it's still a valid point and it's easier to stack poison on a few charms than other elementals.
2. It adds up each hit
3. If you just went by that exile should be bm too not just grief
4. True
5. Good argument there.

If we allowed poison damage the helm andys would also be aloud since assuming it's bm for psn nova and not cross class skill.



:lol:


Pnova is a cross-class skill, so andy is still out. Exile is only allowed in pal v pal because, again, hypocritical people want to use their godly items.

You guys know on west, gm melee still bans battle orders outside of barbs? East is just full of people who want to gimp other people's builds, but never their own, in order to feel more powerful.
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Sep 22 2011 12:38am
Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 22 2011 01:36am)
Pnova is a cross-class skill, so andy is still out. Exile is only allowed in pal v pal because, again, hypocritical people want to use their godly items.

You guys know on west, gm melee still bans battle orders outside of barbs? East is just full of people who want to gimp other people's builds, but never their own, in order to feel more powerful.


Yeah west really sticks to our temple rules. And kids on east yell at us to "stick with the times" yet they like west rules. Doesn't make sense imo.
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Sep 22 2011 12:39am
new generation of melee hated exile but they allowed andys.. :unsure: soo sup lol.
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Quote (Neko @ Sep 22 2011 01:39am)
new generation of melee hated exile but they allowed andys.. :unsure: soo sup lol.


Lol ah well they're having fun on their ladder so no harm done.
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