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Oct 18 2009 03:30pm
Quote (omega329 @ Sun, Oct 18 2009, 05:24pm)
40ias griefz and 10+ias gloves = regular bp (you cant hit bp if u get frozen from holy freeze while using griefz)

So i can use 40 griefz and bfists and still hit it? In previous posts somebody said sue 40/15 in shako and bbelt (im ladder so cant) so i would have to use bfists + 40/15?


er.. griefz blows cock for overall play on vts.. but if u REALLY want to use it then all u need is 40ias griefz + bloodfist or anything with 10+ ias
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Oct 18 2009 03:35pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Sun, Oct 18 2009, 09:30pm)
er.. griefz blows cock for overall play on vts.. but if u REALLY want to use it then all u need is 40ias griefz + bloodfist or anything with 10+ ias


Ahh, well in the post that i created earlyer when they were flaming me, i saw a post to use greifz, ill just stick with PB i guess, since i already have one.
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Oct 18 2009 03:41pm
Quote (omega329 @ Sun, Oct 18 2009, 05:35pm)
Ahh, well in the post that i created earlyer when they were flaming me, i saw a post to use greifz, ill just stick with PB i guess, since i already have one.


i use both:

griefz = hdins, other chars where having good range is nice and they wont slow you and charding wont help much
grief pb = everything else

read my introduction comparison between the two to see why
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Hey man, here is someone who tested out your V/t/ T/v build and messed it up, lol.

So, i made the build with almost everything you listed as considered good for him, but then I did something very newb lol. I just forgot I couldnt put stats points based on the str/dex he already had. For example, i didnt put enought str to use my upped Hoz (wich i only upped after putting all stat points, and didnt put enought dex to use grief, unless i stay all the time with ravens).

So i want to make 2 questions:

1) I'll really have to waste these points into str and dex so i can change between setups?

2) I really can't afford life/resist charms. So, using : Ber Shako/29 Maras/ Ber Hoz/Nigma / Grief/ ias cb glves/dungos/ww / 16+res anni and torch, i have crappy resists. (max is cold with 74; others are like 50ish.) Is that a problem? or i should be good when using Kiras + other setups ?


Thanks a lot in advance.
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Oct 24 2009 10:25am
Quote (pedrao00 @ Oct 24 2009 12:21pm)
Hey man, here is someone who tested out your V/t/ T/v build and messed it up, lol.

So, i made the build with almost everything you listed as considered good for him, but then I did something very newb lol. I just forgot I couldnt put stats points based on the str/dex he already had. For example, i didnt put enought str to use my upped Hoz (wich i only upped after putting all stat points, and didnt put enought dex to use grief, unless i stay all the time with ravens).

So i want to make 2 questions:

1) I'll really have to waste these points into str and dex so i can change between setups?

2) I really can't afford life/resist charms. So, using : Ber Shako/29 Maras/ Ber Hoz/Nigma / Grief/ ias cb glves/dungos/ww / 16+res anni and torch, i have crappy resists. (max is cold with 74; others are like 50ish.) Is that a problem? or i should be good when using Kiras + other setups ?


Thanks a lot in advance.


er.... i didnt put a single point into str so i think u might have messed up a bit there.

1) i think you need hard points to wear gear because its very important (coa/spirit or exile combo is nice to have but i think it may cost you up to 20 points to use)
2) if you cant afford life/res scs then you HAVE To use coa for res. kiras is ok to stack but you should have max res overall. (poison can be an exception because you can throw on treks if needed)
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Oct 24 2009 10:40am
Also.

i've been told that having 25dr or 49 dr is the same thing.

is that so?
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Oct 24 2009 10:48am
Quote (pedrao00 @ Oct 24 2009 12:40pm)
Also.

i've been told that having 25dr or 49 dr is the same thing.

is that so?


no..

if you have 25% DR, for an attack dealing 100 damage, you'll take 75 damage..

if you have 49% DR, for an attack dealing 100 damage, you'll take 51 damage..
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Oct 24 2009 10:55am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Oct 24 2009 12:48pm)
no..

if you have 25% DR, for an attack dealing 100 damage, you'll take 75 damage..

if you have 49% DR, for an attack dealing 100 damage, you'll take 51 damage..


this...

now if someone does 1000 damage, they will do 750 to you vs 510.... (after pvp penalty) - which is a huge difference
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Oct 27 2009 01:56pm
GG guide thanks.

but NEVER put a point in vigor it wastes too many.

get a 6 bo cta with 3foh 3conviction and 3 vigor like me.
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Oct 27 2009 02:00pm
Quote (W i z - @ 27 Oct 2009 22:56)
GG guide thanks.

but NEVER put a point in vigor it wastes too many.

get a  6 bo cta  with  3foh  3conviction and 3 vigor  like me.


LLOLOLOOOOOOOLLLLLLLOLOLOLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL

Seriously, what use is getting vigor on cta and not on grief? ^^^^
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