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Mar 28 2022 12:49am
Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 28 2022 02:42am)
Gotcha. I went 2/20/2 magic tiara and 14/1/3 10ed mat bow for good prices. Just need gloves ammy and charms.

How much frw assuming eth titans and ss jav side for now. I likely won’t be spending ggs for a 2/20/2 rare with frw.



Try to get in that 120-150 range. An easy way to do this, is get a bunch of 3/5 all res scs. You’ll need the resist anyways. I feel like 120+frw java side, 32fhr is good enough to save you in most situations. For gloves you can get some java ias knockback for much cheaper than passive. Amulet go for 2/18+ fcr ofc. All in all, it’s a relatively cheap build but can be really pricey if you go for the super gg’s haha.

Like I got my hands on a 2 zon 20fcr 20 frw 48 life 26 cr 2os helm with matching 15/40’s. Really hard to come by atm
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Mar 28 2022 10:04am
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 02:30am)
Sure It’s nice to have Trang’s stashed for when you really wanna beef up that psn dmg, but almost never is it worth it. Because you reallly benefit so much from the knockback.


trang+2os giant skull eh
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Mar 28 2022 12:24pm
Quote (iceydicey @ Mar 28 2022 12:04pm)
trang+2os giant skull eh



Yeah but I’m not even sure that’s stronger than 2java ias kb gloves with a 2 zon circ
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Mar 28 2022 12:25pm
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 02:24pm)
Yeah but I’m not even sure that’s stronger than 2java ias kb gloves with a 2 zon circ


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Mar 28 2022 01:34pm
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admit plague abuser



Plague = only hope to try to kill Ace :cry:

I honestly don’t really care for plague, but it’s kinda needed to have a chance in those 99/1 matchups like gg telesmiters that use the foh telesmite combo. Also only hope against cheese kick sins with dodge lock being a thing. Gotta try to out cheese em there. If these matchups weren’t so 1 sided, I’d probably just run with like 20 pts in plague as like another tool, if I even used it at all, regular bowa is much more fun :)
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Mar 28 2022 01:51pm
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Plague = only hope to try to kill Ace :cry:

I honestly don’t really care for plague, but it’s kinda needed to have a chance in those 99/1 matchups like gg telesmiters that use the foh telesmite combo. Also only hope against cheese kick sins with dodge lock being a thing. Gotta try to out cheese em there. If these matchups weren’t so 1 sided, I’d probably just run with like 20 pts in plague as like another tool, if I even used it at all, regular bowa is much more fun :)


you 100% need plague vs certain matchups, just feel bad for the 95% es sorcs teleing into plague by accident xD
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you 100% need plague vs certain matchups, just feel bad for the 95% es sorcs teleing into plague by accident xD



That’s what they get for putting all their eggs in one basket :evil:
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Mar 28 2022 03:53pm
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 27 2022 11:49pm)
Try to get in that 120-150 range. An easy way to do this, is get a bunch of 3/5 all res scs. You’ll need the resist anyways. I feel like 120+frw java side, 32fhr is good enough to save you in most situations. For gloves you can get some java ias knockback for much cheaper than passive. Amulet go for 2/18+ fcr ofc. All in all, it’s a relatively cheap build but can be really pricey if you go for the super gg’s haha.

Like I got my hands on a 2 zon 20fcr 20 frw 48 life 26 cr 2os helm with matching 15/40’s. Really hard to come by atm



Thank you for pointing me towards that ammy! I’ll be grabbing that and some 2/20 passive kb gloves I reserved when I get home from work. Almost done aside from charms and jewels.

I did some crunching on maxroll and max poison and plague will give me 40k plague with no jav gcs. Nutty lol.

Multishot looks problematic though. Maxing it basically means the last 15 hard points add no more arrows (already at 24 max) but each point increases mana cost. Maxing it with mat bow and 2/20/2 circ will make it cost 39 mana per cast. The synergy to guided and strafe is great, but is 39 mana per cast even viable?

Also, at level 92 this build would only leave 6 points leftover for passives beyond 1 point each, so no way I can get crit above 70 or avoid high enough either.

Wondering if those 15 multi points would be better into passives.
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Mar 28 2022 04:34pm
Quote (NateFizzle @ Mar 28 2022 05:53pm)
Thank you for pointing me towards that ammy! I’ll be grabbing that and some 2/20 passive kb gloves I reserved when I get home from work. Almost done aside from charms and jewels.

I did some crunching on maxroll and max poison and plague will give me 40k plague with no jav gcs. Nutty lol.

Multishot looks problematic though. Maxing it basically means the last 15 hard points add no more arrows (already at 24 max) but each point increases mana cost. Maxing it with mat bow and 2/20/2 circ will make it cost 39 mana per cast. The synergy to guided and strafe is great, but is 39 mana per cast even viable?

Also, at level 92 this build would only leave 6 points leftover for passives beyond 1 point each, so no way I can get crit above 70 or avoid high enough either.

Wondering if those 15 multi points would be better into passives.



Well until 2.4, you don’t need the extra pts in multi, but after 2.4, it boosts your guided arrow damage considerably. You can put less into psn javelin and have around 30k plague which is what I’ve been running lately. Here’s a max roll with my actual gear and skill allocation for this setup: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner-ptr/0o0106v0

As for mana consumption, this is a big problem in the build, hence you want to get mana anywhere you can, such as the fcr ring, or amulet. You can usually get through a duel with your mana belt though ofc. In competitive duels, it’s pretty standard to have a mana pool set up beforehand
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Mar 28 2022 04:36pm
Quote (ceejay3 @ Mar 28 2022 03:34pm)
Well until 2.4, you don’t need the extra pts in multi, but after 2.4, it boosts your guided arrow damage considerably. You can put less into psn javelin and have around 30k plague which is what I’ve been running lately. Here’s a max roll with my actual gear and skill allocation for this setup: https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner-ptr/0o0106v0

As for mana consumption, this is a big problem in the build, hence you want to get mana anywhere you can, such as the fcr ring, or amulet. You can usually get through a duel with your mana belt though ofc. In competitive duels, it’s pretty standard to have a mana pool set up beforehand


can't use mana pots during duels? im new, just curious.
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