Quote (Telefunken @ Aug 21 2015 03:44pm)

I've already explained what offsets 50% cb in post #72

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Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 06:54pm)

please provide numbers if you are going to say that grief is mathematically better

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 06:54pm)

i have already said yes you will kill a demon faster, but will be giving up a ton of other benefits.

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 06:54pm)

mdr or more hp is a matter of preference. in most cases the extra chunk of HP will be better. what if you are in an area where nothing is hitting you with magic?

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 06:54pm)

confuse procs very rarely for me. i see confuse up maybe once in a whole chaos clear

Quote (lilith0 @ Aug 21 2015 03:49pm)

I said post#75

In my last post (#100) I explained point by point why there is no such thing as a ton of benefit

I've never seen someone like that
Usually people on the internet, when they're shown wrong, would answer with bad arguments, but you are... just completely ignoring the facts that are exposed in front of your eyes.
it's some case of severe denial...


here, have a read:
[URL=http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Magic_Damage_Reduced]http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/Magic_Damage_Reduced[/URL]


if you cast confuse once per run, as you've 20%ctc confuse when struck, it means you get hit 5times per chaos run on average.
and still you're bitching about how LT is invaluable

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death BA fana build ed:

200str + 160armor + 366zeal (lvl96 with 4pc sks and a bk) + 475fana + 230might = 1431

DS: 100%

raw physical damage: <(355death*15.31)*2>=10870

grief ed:

ed: 200str, 300fort, 342zeal (on lvl96 with 4pc sks), 230might, 345conc = 1417

DS: 71%

raw physical dam (against non daemons): <(437grief * 15.17)*1.71>= 11336 on avg

raw physical dam against demons: <(437grief * 20.47)*1.71>=15296 on avg

Quote (respeconize8 @ 21 Aug 2015 21:46)

self conviction is not worth losing fanat

Quote (respeconize8 @ Aug 21 2015 10:10pm)

ill assume since youre using self conviction that is pride on your merc. so then lets take these numbers,

10870 for death

11336 for grief

10870 x
------ = -----
11336 100

11336x=1087000

x=96~

and youre telling me that a setup doing 96% of grief's damage but adding 50 CB is inferior?

Quote (Klaasje123 @ Aug 21 2015 04:46pm)

Not if you use a1 faith merc.

Ok.. fana lvl is a little lower, but you get 'maxed' convic (lvl 25)

Both work ofc

Quote (Beste @ Aug 21 2015 09:50pm)

u have to count the higher light dmg, but i think too that 50 crushing blow is better, maybe in p1 not

Quote (Telefunken @ Aug 21 2015 10:54pm)

the effects of CB doesn't scale with the number of players in game