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Jul 26 2011 09:50am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 26 Jul 2011 16:49)
i bet the feral doesnt have any ias at all, and the chaos has 35+ ias from being a chaos.


but the wsm will be slower lol
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Jul 26 2011 09:58am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 26 Jul 2011 18:49)
i bet the feral doesnt have any ias at all, and the chaos has 35+ ias from being a chaos.


and? whats the point? you'll slow down your wsm so much that 35 ias won't bring it up to the same level

and the claws he said he uses were

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1. Runics 40 ias 298 ed fools 1 socket (um)
2. Fury runics 3 mindblast


both of these have 40 ias and are runics, not ferals

and judging from his previous posts he really has no clue how wsm bug works
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Jul 26 2011 10:03am
Quote (tudey @ Jul 26 2011 11:58am)
and? whats the point? you'll slow down your wsm so much that 35 ias won't bring it up to the same level

and the claws he said he uses were



both of these have 40 ias and are runics, not ferals

and judging from his previous posts he really has no clue how wsm bug works


o good call, i forgot the runics had ias... well in that case he just needs to switch up the claw positions and hes good to go.
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Jul 26 2011 10:13am
Quote (Azn Masta @ 26 Jul 2011 19:03)
o good call, i forgot the runics had ias... well in that case he just needs to switch up the claw positions and hes good to go.


yea i know he doesnt have to do anything else, thats why i told him he's doing it incorrectly so he can fix it
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Jul 26 2011 10:26am
So many posts over nothing.I dont wsm bug.
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Jul 26 2011 10:40am
Quote (quicksand @ Jul 26 2011 12:26pm)
So many posts over nothing.I dont wsm bug.


u HAVE to wsm bug man... u lose so many benefits without it.

infact, u wont even get enough ias for 9frames
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Jul 26 2011 10:41am
good guide m8

grats for the sticky
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Jul 26 2011 10:42am
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jul 26 2011 04:40pm)
u HAVE to wsm bug man... u lose so many benefits without it.

infact, u wont even get enough ias for 9frames


How come ?

Primary claw = ias taken from
Other sources = 20 ias (highlords)

Runic 40 ias + 20 ias = 60.

And what do i lose if i dont wsm ? I know that ar only applies to the fools claw.
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Jul 26 2011 10:50am
Quote (quicksand @ Jul 26 2011 04:42pm)
How come ?

Primary claw = ias taken from
Other sources = 20 ias (highlords)

Runic 40 ias + 20 ias = 60.

And what do i lose if i dont wsm ? I know that ar only applies to the fools claw.


runic/suwayyah standard equipping = -15wsm = 75ias bp
now you could reach the bp with 40runic + 20highlords + 40/15 helm, but then you lose the bp if you get 10% slowed, and furthermore don't have that heavy ias stack vs golem
if you are already using suwayyah chaos and a fools runic you should be wsm bugging, you get -45wsm, 19ias bp, tons of ias stacked vs slow, and your fools stays primary in this setup

if you were using suwayyah fools/runic chaos then yes I would vouch standard equipping and reaching 75ias bp, but if its the other way around there isn't much reason not to wsm bug. <.<



@Bui: solid guide overall as usual, kinda wondering why your skill layout only shows 18 points in mb. really? get those 2 points. if you don't wanna change skillers take 2 points out of fade or venom, your call (edit: or ditch dflight for 2 points lolol, probably better choice). or if you need to keep a wb%, maybe add +1skiller and take one point out of wb+fade so you have 20mb. really 20mb is godlike.
also wondering.. on your guillaumes setup do you keep wb% or no? Im not really a fan of that setup but whatever I can see it working vs some. personally I'd just keep 65fcr and take advantage of outstunlocking and getting unanswered hits more.

This post was edited by Ziecheik on Jul 26 2011 10:54am
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How come ?

Primary claw = ias taken from
Other sources = 20 ias (highlords)

Runic 40 ias + 20 ias = 60.

And what do i lose if i dont wsm ? I know that ar only applies to the fools claw.


If you don't wsm bug your wsm speed will be terrible, in other words 60 ias won't do shit lol.

/e also I agree with max, non maxed mb confused me since it's one of the biggest advantages a ghost has over a hybrid imo.

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jul 26 2011 10:51am
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