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Nov 8 2010 04:40pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 8 2010 10:35pm)
absolutely :rofl:


I am just pointing out common sense

More dmg and more versatile hammer vs > regular hammer

Btw its called the Obliterator
since I agreed to rename him after Zappy's elemental
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This post was edited by mizure on Nov 8 2010 04:41pm
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Nov 8 2010 04:55pm
Quote (mizure @ Nov 9 2010 12:40am)
I am just pointing out common sense

More dmg and more versatile hammer vs > regular hammer

Btw its called the Obliterator
since I agreed to rename him after Zappy's elemental
zealer


less versatility. you lose 125 fcr vs melee / physical cuz you swap to coa. Unless you go for hoto then which is retarded cuz you lose all your foh and you losing griff as well when you need hammer 125 + dr as ANY good hammerdin should have, and then you might as well go 1 pt foh or even 1 pt conv ... and like that you're a proper hammerdin anyway. Which means against some of the deadliest opponents, you are still essentially a hammerdin and there is nothing individual about this build as such. If a hammer wants it so bad he can just grief in cube as you stated, its 1 sc and gc less but you gain the raw smite dmg ^^ Some hammerdins do it its a good idea vs some chars, and cubetrick is popular these days.

Against other chars where dr isnt needed, you are essentially gaining some foh dmg, which is useful really against necs and vita sorcs with their bad hp returns, but against these you might as well go hammer or V/T respectively. golem and wall and bone armor > foh and smite. And good v/t's eat vita sorcs, excluding maybe 200fcr fire sorcs. Druid and es sorc >>> foh. Really no advantage gained vs jav or trap imo as opposed to using a proper hammerdin either ... maybe im wrong there dunno ...

But anyway in conclusion: the point of making your tridin with all its switches? None at all, completely fucking pointless ofc ...

And stop being so big headed abt it you sound like a douche, even though I know you trying to act all suave and shrug it off. Your 'build' hasnt and wont catch on, no one has ever mentioned it or linked it at all, lol not even in a single darn post 8DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Now ead and cry me a river, you fucking rand :)

PS ~ Always looking for good duels US West Softcore Ladder :D

Explains a lot XD



This post was edited by markilbaldacchino on Nov 8 2010 05:04pm
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Nov 8 2010 06:47pm
Quote (markilbaldacchino @ Nov 8 2010 10:55pm)
less versatility. you lose 125 fcr vs melee / physical cuz you swap to coa. Unless you go for hoto then which is retarded cuz you lose all your foh and you losing griff as well when you need hammer 125 + dr as ANY good hammerdin should have, and then you might as well go 1 pt foh or even 1 pt conv ... and like that you're a proper hammerdin anyway. Which means against some of the deadliest opponents, you are still essentially a hammerdin and there is nothing individual about this build as such. If a hammer wants it so bad he can just grief in cube as you stated, its 1 sc and gc less but you gain the raw smite dmg ^^ Some hammerdins do it its a good idea vs some chars, and cubetrick is popular these days.

Against other chars where dr isnt needed, you are essentially gaining some foh dmg, which is useful really against necs and vita sorcs with their bad hp returns, but against these you might as well go hammer or V/T respectively. golem and wall and bone armor > foh and smite. And good v/t's eat vita sorcs, excluding maybe 200fcr fire sorcs. Druid and es sorc >>> foh. Really no advantage gained vs jav or trap imo as opposed to using a proper hammerdin either ... maybe im wrong there dunno ...

But anyway in conclusion: the point of making your tridin with all its switches? None at all, completely fucking pointless ofc ...

And stop being so big headed abt it you sound like a douche, even though I know you trying to act all suave and shrug it off. Your 'build' hasnt and wont catch on, no one has ever mentioned it or linked it at all, lol not even in a single darn post 8DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Now ead and cry me a river, you fucking rand :)

PS ~ Always looking for good duels US West Softcore Ladder :D

Explains a lot XD


DR is only vs melee or windy.
Here is the thing. I can have 75fcr and still do alright
You know why?

cause I dont really have to chase other melee chars
They come to me!!! I will still have an upper hand since I can smite them for proper dmg.

As for foh It is useless dmg vs anyone serious. But it still does serve an excellent stun skill.
It Is not primary dmg source And I am perfectly aware that even a full foh can be made useless.

As for versatility you mentioned to get grief into cube...... Well you wont be getting hoz or exile on yourself then.
And if you carry it in cube you will lose skills and life..... which = stupid

You also mention when I go up against chars where I dont need dr..
Well mate, obliterator is superior then any mage, hdin, v/t out there.
Since he has higher hammer dmg and higher physical dmg.

So again this guy is more versatile, has higher dmg
then any pally you will make

~ What you dont seem to understand by versitality I can turn him into
pure hdin and then back to obliterator When it suits me....



This post was edited by mizure on Nov 8 2010 06:50pm
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Nov 8 2010 07:19pm
wtf, if your on west ladder whats your character name?
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Nov 9 2010 12:24am
vn1 guide

but bm is bad
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Nov 9 2010 11:08am
Quote (mizure @ 9 Nov 2010 00:25)
REad above

He wont win in gm since he either has to carry a cube in order
to equip grief

or he will have to leave it in stash.

So he wont have smite dmg just stun

I will have more dmg, physically, magically and light

lmk


Hammer has more magic damage, and magic dmg > phys > ele :huh:
And I dont even have Grief in stash on hammer, I dont need it anywhere

This post was edited by sevlo on Nov 9 2010 11:09am
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Nov 9 2010 11:21am
i c every1 has big mouth in here.

Guys, why dont u make duel video and show us, if u think ure that good?

Nice guide :thumbsup:
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Nov 9 2010 11:22am
shagai naxui, debila
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Nov 11 2010 10:58pm
Bump
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Nov 12 2010 11:21pm
This shit will be useless against everything other than pubs.
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