As it was stated already, lifetap doesn't trigger during WW. The only time it'd go off is either when you're zerking/norm attacking/widowing/etc. Also, 86% FHR is only seemingly useful against sins, but even then you can leap/WW out of MB/trap locks. The 40~ life from Bfists turns into something like 100~ after BO, which isn't much at all. The other stats on the Bfists are fairly useless, while the 25% OW mod is practically irreplacable. You're trading 100~ life for an extra 25% chance of dealing 500~ damage. That's worth it.

I find 15str useful sometimes(switch to bo weapons while wearing coa or something like that)

Well, yeah. I was just trying to show that the 25% OW alone outweighs pretty much all the mods on the Bfists. Bfists mods you can get elsewhere, but the 25% OW means you'll have to replace your belt [bad idea] or your weapon [really bad idea] in order to get more OW [boots can be worn with both Bfists and Dracs, so Gores isn't accounted for].

wats more important ow or deadly strike?

This post was edited by Derek916 on Dec 9 2006 10:54pm

No, I wouldn`t say so. 35% to do double dmg=6k*2=12k vs 25% to do 500dmg.
Count the pvp dmg over time:
12k/6*0.35=700<-- if opponent has max dr it`s 350
500*0.25=125

Both are equally important, though the weapon mastery and the crit potential that's inherent with it makes up for some DS. OW% is difficult to get, most barbs will have around 35% OW [Gores + Dracs], not counting weapons. That Barb amulet is sort of useless for a bvc build, since you can easily get 40% [37% BP] by using arach + 2x FCR rings, and still retain dracs. Using arach + 2x FCR rings also means you keep your Hlords, which increases your potential damage by quite a bit.

Hey hey! A little break here!

The 35% Deadly Strike is actually an increase of 27.3% to your damage. And what the hell is up with that calculation? It's totally not correct. Here you go:

447.5 * 8.65 * 1.6006 *0.17 * 0.5 526.636415 PvP damage to someone with 50% DR

And OW at that lvl would do 568 damage, meaning they are just about equal. The chance to trigger does not even matter.

And yes, the more critical strike you have, the less effective will any additional DS become. However, it's the same with everything.

Rom, what's up with your fixation of always using Dracul's with 40% FCR? Such a setup gets you in a lot of trouble unless you go switch gear a lot. For example, after killing a blizzard sorc or an orber, you will have to switch gear to duel a smiter. Or are you telling me that you use Trangs + Ravens only in TvTs? As in TvTs, the lack of OW does not matter.

would be 4*um and 2*shael berseker axe any useful vs es sorces? :/

I have a vision; "waste of stash space, kind sir"... or something.

haha its just impossible to have all those items and add this ba which is pretty shitty imo,