It's better at being inferior sure.

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I'm quite sure Noob_nova got somekinda fetish for arguing over the internet.

No matter what you say or how you reason your point, he still disagrees without a second thought and keeps the argument going.

That's the definition of a troll.

never said it was
nice assumption

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you are a noob

Lastwish is better for pure Uberrunning or Key boss running.
the actually physical damage you can do against any of these boss's is so tiny that is barely factors into the kill itself.

for everything else Grief all the way.

I happen to use grief on my ubberrunner but I could see LW working better.

This post was edited by Andrewchos on Jul 31 2010 07:01pm

Didn't bother to check the calculations done by Eywa? There's 4 weapons that kill faster than lastwish, grief being the fastest one.

I dont know who Eywa is and she could of been wrong, i'd like to test this myself and will do so later.
Im not just talking about pure killing speed. yea if you use every other slot on your build to get CB you may kill it faster but the build itself will be much worse.

and just by experience looking at myself killing any of those 6-7 bosses its obvious that most of the damage is done by the CB% not the weapon itself.
thats why when I bring my Godly PVP smiter into uber games and help my friends it takes him like 2 minutes to kill a boss because he only has 15% and yes he uses grief.

I'd be willing to wager its much easier and far cheaper to make a good uberrunner using last wish. not only that but it has that sin skill which will activate providing DR and Res which will increase survivability. even if Eywa is correct. the loss of 3-4 seconds off killing speed is certainly worth 15DR + Res + the ability to use various builds and different gear instead of needing massive CB boost from helm/boots etc..

+ Having more life from shako and not needing as many res charm's allows me to have more space in inventory for keys etc..

This post was edited by Andrewchos on Jul 31 2010 07:16pm

It's possible to make uber smiter that gets the job done, with the cost of just one rune in lastwish.

I agree, but I think if you already had a lastwish pb it would be cheaper and make a far better uberrunner.