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Jul 11 2010 02:47pm
Quote (drt1245 @ Jul 11 2010 08:44pm)
Seriously, stop giving that retard serious responses.


lol. :P

well, to be fair people on these forums come from different communities with different class balances and different player skill levels. its kinda like comparing priv play to pub play, different tactics work on different realms and viability of things changes. this guy seems to find 102 hybrid to work well where he duels, and maybe its the truth for him. I'm just giving him the reasons why I never found it a good idea.
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meh, I'd rather play on a pure 102 trapper vs barb, or 65fcr hybrid. with 102 hybrid you are reducing your whirl damage to the point that the barb can just treat you as a trapper and not worry about exchanging blows. using 65fcr with gclaws allows a hybrid to have the whirl damage just have enough damage output to be a threat. this means that a barb has to consider balancing dr/tgods vs the hybrid, as well as needs to be careful at exchanging hits because they will likely not be using a full dr setup. not saying 65fcr hybridsins outwhirl barbs, they don't of course, but the whirl becomes enough of a threat that the hybrid can play on luring tactics with traps more efficiently in this matchup. with 102 hybrid its like youre playing a 102 trapper except having a useless whirl and no maxed mb.

and ya of course going back down to 65 after playing on 102 seems slow, but I think it really works out better with characters made to use claws. when you stomp down on casters with a 65fcr build its just so much stronger than a 102 which plays kinda like a flea.
as for pub games, again I'd rather play 65fcr vs all. and tvt I'd rather bring in a pure trapper any day.
such is my opinion on this.


i stop you here, i will never use ww vs a barb, i will not even use chaos, but furry (to kick barb sometime when he w spam away)

y will be the same than playing a pur traper with a bit low trap dmg and not maxed mb, but with a trapbased hybsin that work fine x)

Quote (Bryant @ Jul 11 2010 08:45pm)
Step 1: Play 200 FCR sorc.
Step 2: Rape.
Step 3: Rage that any other char is too slow.
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit.

Edit:



SSHH, YOU'RE TAKING AWAY MY TROLL BAIT.


you cant compare an assa with a sorc

This post was edited by harg on Jul 11 2010 02:51pm
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Quote (Bryant @ Jul 11 2010 04:47pm)
Don9 4 fixet.


I USE 200 FCR DUAL UM'D WIZZY BVC LIKE CLOWN_IRAGE SUGGEST!
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lol. :P

well, to be fair people on these forums come from different communities with different class balances and different player skill levels. its kinda like comparing priv play to pub play, different tactics work on different realms and viability of things changes. this guy seems to find 102 hybrid to work well where he duels, and maybe its the truth for him. I'm just giving him the reasons why I never found it a good idea.


It was possible, until this:

Quote (harg @ Jul 11 2010 04:48pm)
i stop you here, i will never use ww vs a barb, i will not even use chaos, but furry (to kick barb sometime when he w spam away)

y will be the same than playing a pur traper with a bit low dmg mb and not maxed mb, but with a trapbased hybsin that work fine x)



e/ n1 double post.

This post was edited by drt1245 on Jul 11 2010 02:49pm
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i stop you here, i will never use ww vs a barb, i will not even use chaos, but furry (to kick barb sometime when he w spam away)

y will be the same than playing a pur traper with a bit low dmg mb and not maxed mb, but with a trapbased hybsin that work fine x)


Smart tactic because barbar iz not sin = no movement with clawblock!!@!
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Quote (eXeeXe @ Jul 11 2010 11:47pm)
hahaha


You've made so many facepalm posts this week, you're not even entitled to laugh.
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Smart tactic because barbar iz not sin = no movement with clawblock!!@!


I always hold down namelock kick as barbs whirl away.
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i stop you here, i will never use ww vs a barb, i will not even use chaos, but furry (to kick barb sometime when he w spam away)

y will be the same than playing a pur traper with a bit low trap dmg and not maxed mb, but with a trapbased hybsin that work fine x)


in all honesty whirl is far superior to kick vs wsging barb as kick doesnt hit unless they wsg up
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i stop you here, i will never use ww vs a barb, i will not even use chaos, but furry (to kick barb sometime when he w spam away)

y will be the same than playing a pur traper with a bit low dmg mb and not maxed mb, but with a trapbased hybsin that work fine x)


then play a pure trapper. :P

and yes whirl is useful vs bvcs, they have to balance dr/tgods and do not have block, when whirl becomes a threat to them (not in that they are outwhirled, but just enough of a threat for them to respect that they could take some damage in a whirl trade) a lot more defensive/trapping tactics start to be more viable. If you think otherwise you have not used a gclaw sin with high enough claw damage, which is again a 65fcr build. look up bui's guide and try it out at some point.
if its a bva with maxblock ss, then yeah just duel as a pure trapper. also kicking barbs on c/c is a horrible idea if the barb has any type of reflexes. much better to try getting an unanswered whirl hit if you can sneak it in as he wsg spams away.
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