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#111
Sep 22 2009 11:00am
Quote (the_nub @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 12:56pm)
If you're bad enough that you need to BM on a Smiter (rofl) then you're probably bad enough that you'll never take off the Exile so you'll be stating MB with it. If you're GM and randomly have an Exile the only character you'd ever bring it in against is a Barb, and you'd need max block+max defence for that so the difference will literally be 15 dex. Stop defending this stupid ass choice. You lose.

Eth bugged ST exile  85.00%  (17 Votes)
Eth bugged Vortex Exile  15.00%  (3 Votes)

We're up to 85% retards this makes me ashamed to have a JSP account. :/


If i'm gm and have an exile in stash, i'd have statted max block with a hoz... which needs around 135 dex.. and if i use a vortex exile, and try statting for max block with it, it needs 176 dex.. that's not 15...

i'm merely saying that when you are GM, you use a hoz (hence stat for max block with it).. and when you switch to an exile, using a ST is better coz you'd end up with more block (not talking about MAX block here)..
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#112
Sep 22 2009 11:01am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:00pm)
If i'm gm and have an exile in stash, i'd have statted max block with a hoz... which needs around 135 dex.. and if i use a vortex exile, and try statting for max block with it, it needs 176 dex.. that's not 15...

i'm merely saying that when you are GM, you use a hoz (hence stat for max block with it).. and when you switch to an exile, using a ST is better coz you'd end up with more block (not talking about MAX block here)..


If you don't have max block as a smiter against barbs you fail harder than a fat guy on a diet.
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#113
Sep 22 2009 11:02am
Quote (bowfer @ Tue, 22 Sep 2009, 17:58)
jees can u guys just stop flaming at each other and start discussing my topic again as it was attended LOL



Iron maiden on smiters = useless Blaaah

trang helping venom well it does but not enough for it to be worth going that direction blaaah

what does a druid have to do with a vortex/ st smiter?


btw, venom doesnt work with smite...
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#114
Sep 22 2009 11:04am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, 22 Sep 2009, 18:00)
If i'm gm and have an exile in stash, i'd have statted max block with a hoz... which needs around 135 dex.. and if i use a vortex exile, and try statting for max block with it, it needs 176 dex.. that's not 15...

i'm merely saying that when you are GM, you use a hoz (hence stat for max block with it).. and when you switch to an exile, using a ST is better coz you'd end up with more block (not talking about MAX block here)..


Okay.. You switch your HoZ to ST exile. Your block goes down.
Now i switch HoZ to exile vortex. My block goes down too. But cause i have statted 15 in dex, my block is just as huge as yours! And its again same situation... Receiving less hits against 80hp.

This post was edited by Dorieus on Sep 22 2009 11:04am
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#115
Sep 22 2009 11:07am
Quote (Dorieus @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 05:02pm)
btw, venom doesnt work with smite...


perhaps not im not a smiter expert its gonna be my first one, but it would prolly activate by using charge a few times and then the trang gloves adds a tiny ibt more dmg not that its any usefull anyway:D
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#116
Sep 22 2009 11:09am
Quote (Dorieus @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:04pm)
Okay.. You switch your HoZ to ST exile. Your block goes down.
Now i switch HoZ to exile vortex. My block goes down too. But cause i have statted 15 in dex, my block is just as huge as yours! And its again same situation... Receiving less hits against 80hp.


once again, it's the same questions:

1. with the defense from holy shield and exile's defiance, why would you even need the extra defense? barbs have a hard time hitting exile smiters just because of the defiance aura.. so why do you need the extra defense from the vortex? it's just overkill..

2. why would you stat 15 dex points just for ONE bm duel, where it is a waste in all other cases..
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#117
Sep 22 2009 11:10am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 06:09pm)


2. why would you stat 15 dex points just for ONE bm duel, where it is a waste in all other cases..


why would anyone stat anything, if he could just use an st?^^
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#118
Sep 22 2009 11:13am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:09pm)
once again, it's the same questions:

1. with the defense from holy shield and exile's defiance, why would you even need the extra defense? barbs have a hard time hitting exile smiters just because of the defiance aura.. so why do you need the extra defense from the vortex? it's just overkill..

2. why would you stat 15 dex points just for ONE bm duel, where it is a waste in all other cases..


1. Because the massive extra defence is still more useful than the tiny amount of life.

2. Why even go max block on any character then? Its only useful against a few matchups. Fucking noob ass shit IMO. In fact why get fire resist? Its good against even less matchups. IN FACT WHY GET ANYTHING EXCEPT LIFE AND DAMAGE 1-HIT KABOOOOOOOOOM?

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#119
Sep 22 2009 11:21am
Quote (the_nub @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:13pm)
1. Because the massive extra defence is still more useful than the tiny amount of life.


how and where? imo it isn't..

Quote (the_nub @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:13pm)
2. Why even go max block on any character then? Its only useful against a few matchups. Fucking noob ass shit IMO.


going max block is useful.. going max block with a vortex exile is retarded..
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#120
Sep 22 2009 11:25am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:21pm)
how and where? imo it isn't..


Spend 30 seconds talking to anyone who knows anything about melee and have them lol@you until you understand why defence is useful.

Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 01:21pm)
going max block is useful.. going max block with a vortex exile is retarded..


Oic so you don't go MB against barbs with a smiter. You must be #1. ^_______________________________________________________________________^
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