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Oct 27 2009 01:01am
very nice guide
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I like this build and plan on trying it out :)
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Oct 29 2009 04:32pm
And why is this guide not stickied still?
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Quote (rhuga @ Oct 29 2009 05:32pm)
And why is this guide not stickied still?


Good question. Ive pm'd Kentas twice per the "how to submit a guide sticky" (shortly after I posted and just recently) and neither time did I get a curtosey response. If there's something factually wrong in the guide or a need for any kind of revision that needs to be done prior to accepting it into the Assassin Guide sticky's, I'll never know.

What I do know is that there isnt anything like this in the sin guides already, and this truely is perhaps the best sin build possible in pvm kill speed, flexibility and style. It's a unique build of its own. This build has been played by a great deal of people now, and jsp isnt the only place I've posted this. I have a sticky for this character at one of the largest and oldest legit diablo forums since 2/08. What I mean by this, is that this build has been properly vetted, tried and run through it paces. It's currently at 28,157 views and over 15 pages of comments. This makes it roughly more popular than any sin guide viewed here at jsp in the sticky's. There's only a couple guides posted that have more gross views, and it's by a small margin, and those guides have been posted in some cases since 2005.


This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 29 2009 06:48pm
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Oct 29 2009 06:47pm)
Good question. Ive pm'd Kentas twice per the "how to submit a guide sticky"  (shortly after I posted and just recently) and neither time did I get a curtosey response. If there's something factually wrong in the guide or a need for any kind of revision that  needs to be done prior to accepting it into the Assassin Guide sticky's, I'll never know.

What I do know is that there isnt anything like this in the sin guides already, and this truely is perhaps the best sin build possible in pvm kill speed, flexibility and style.  It's a unique build of its own. This build has been played by a great deal of people now, and jsp isnt the only place I've posted this. I have a sticky for this character at one of the largest and oldest legit diablo forums since 2/08. What I mean by this, is that this build has been properly vetted, tried and run through it paces. It's currently at 28,157 views and over 15 pages of comments. This makes it roughly more popular than any sin guide viewed here at jsp in the sticky's. There's only a couple guides posted that have more gross views, and it's by a small margin, and those guides have been posted in some cases since 2005.


wtf are you talking about..

picked 5 random sin guides

1 - 37557
2 - 35495
6 - 23084
10 - 35824
13 - 18012

3/5 over
1/5 close
1/5 under

This post was edited by Blah58 on Oct 29 2009 06:59pm
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Quote (Blah58 @ Oct 29 2009 07:52pm)
wtf are you talking about..

picked 5 random sin guides

1 - 37557
2 - 35495
6 - 23084
10 - 35824
13 - 18012

3/5 over
1/5 close
1/5 under


Quote (rhuga @ Oct 29 2009 05:32pm)
And why is this guide not stickied still?



Quote (Blah58 @ Oct 29 2009 07:52pm)
wtf are you talking about..



I'm sorry, did you have a question or something meaningful to add? Ive pm'd the mod twice asking for a spot in the sin guide sticky as it would be a good addition. Multiple posters in the thread have also stated it to be sticky'd. Niether time has Kentas bothered to respond to my pm despite following the clear instructions on how to submit a guide. So as you can see in the amount of time is been up, it's beaten most of the guides posted in total views, hence my statement of "gross views" and of the guides that actually have more views, it's taken 5 years for them to get that way. In views per time it exceeds them all. Like many posters, your getting hung up on a trivial points, harping the semantics as I assume that's the best and only thing you can offer. Playing a game of "one up'ing ". My entire point in mentioning the views and let me repeat myself, because you missed it " What I mean by this, is that this build has been properly vetted, tried and run through it paces. "


Now if you click on each guide posted in the sin forums, you'll find:
Pvp Fastcast Ww/kick/stun Assassin Guide Views: 37557 posted at 8/1/05
Guide For 1.11 Ladder Pvp Wwsin -> by Zephiris Views: 35496 posted 8/1/05
Lightning Martial Art Assassin Views: 14134 Jul 10 2006
Wwsin For Pvm Guide - By Lemonfish Views: 11857 7/16/06
The Ultimate Guide To Trap Assassin For All Realms Views: 42491 Feb 12 2007
The Comprehensive Guide To Assassins Views: 18258 Mar 13 2007
Mike´s Ladder 1.11 Ww / Trap Assassin Hybrid Views: 23084 Jul 27 2007
The Bowassin Views: 14433 Oct 5 2006
Pvm Baaling Trapper Views: 13506 Dec 7 2007
HOFX Kicksin guide Views: 35825 Oct 22 2006
1.11b Wake Of Fire / Whirlwind Hybrid Assassin Views: 18012 Apr 1 2007
Gold1's Trapbased Hybrid Assassin Views: 19004 Feb 19 2007
The Spider Assassin Returns: Version 1 3/4. Raar. Views: 17987 Jul 13 2008


This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 29 2009 07:20pm
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Oct 29 2009 07:34pm
very nice guide i love the idea, im trying to go all out on this char.
do you only need 30 ias from gear with bos to hit the BP?
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Oct 29 2009 07:42pm
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very nice guide i love the idea, im trying to go all out on this char.
do you only need 30 ias from gear with bos to hit the BP?


yes that's right :)

Thanks, have fun on that Sin :cheers:

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 29 2009 07:43pm
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Oct 30 2009 04:19am)
Quote (rhuga @ Oct 29 2009 05:32pm)
And why is this guide not stickied still?





I'm sorry, did you have a question or something meaningful to add?  Ive pm'd the mod twice asking for a spot in the sin guide sticky as it would be a good addition. Multiple posters in the thread have also stated it to be sticky'd. Niether time has Kentas bothered to respond to my pm despite following the clear instructions on how to submit a guide.  So as you can see in the amount of time is been up, it's beaten most of the guides posted in total views, hence my statement of "gross views" and of the guides that actually have more views, it's taken 5 years for them to get that way. In views per time it exceeds them all. Like many posters, your getting hung up on a trivial points, harping the semantics as I assume that's the best and only thing you can offer. Playing a game of "one up'ing ".  My entire point in mentioning the views and let me repeat myself, because you missed it " What I mean by this, is that this build has been properly vetted, tried and run through it paces. "

Now if you click on each guide posted in the sin forums, you'll find:
Pvp Fastcast Ww/kick/stun Assassin Guide                    Views: 37557  posted at 8/1/05             
Guide For 1.11 Ladder Pvp Wwsin -> by Zephiris            Views: 35496  posted 8/1/05
Lightning Martial Art Assassin                                          Views: 14134      Jul 10 2006
Wwsin For Pvm Guide - By Lemonfish                Views: 11857    7/16/06
The Ultimate Guide To Trap Assassin For All Realms  Views: 42491    Feb 12 2007
The Comprehensive Guide To Assassins  Views: 18258  Mar 13 2007
Mike´s Ladder 1.11 Ww / Trap Assassin Hybrid    Views: 23084  Jul 27 2007
The Bowassin  Views: 14433  Oct 5 2006
Pvm Baaling Trapper Views: 13506  Dec 7 2007
HOFX Kicksin guide  Views: 35825    Oct 22 2006
1.11b Wake Of Fire / Whirlwind Hybrid Assassin  Views: 18012    Apr 1 2007
Gold1's Trapbased Hybrid Assassin  Views: 19004      Feb 19 2007   
The Spider Assassin Returns: Version 1 3/4. Raar. Views: 17987  Jul 13 2008


Sorry if this is considered spam, but you shouldn't rate your guide's quality by measuring it to it's quantity (aka views / pages of comment).
Kentas might be a bit busy at the moment as I'm guessing he has other things to do as a Junior Moderator. Also, he can't stay around jsp 24/7, answering every pm he gets / helping with every request here and there. Just wait for it, if this guide is worthy, it will be in the stickies, eventually.
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Oct 29 2009 09:09pm
Quote (Synonym @ Oct 29 2009 09:17pm)
Sorry if this is considered spam, but you shouldn't rate your guide's quality by measuring it to it's quantity (aka views / pages of comment).
Kentas might be a bit busy at the moment as I'm guessing he has other things to do as a Junior Moderator. Also, he can't stay around jsp 24/7, answering every pm he gets / helping with every request here and there. Just wait for it, if this guide is worthy, it will be in the stickies, eventually.


This is a very wise and true post. Some of the guides posted are excellent indeed, while others being decent could use some work. The quality of this guide is "good" and on par with whats currently listed, certainly not the best, at least not in my opinion. I didnt mean to denigrate Kentas in any way shape or form, but I can assure you that this isnt a case of me pm'ing him and then expecting an immediate reply. We're talking weeks or more over a couple instances. Now a token pm in response about "reviewing the guide for consideration" or "I'm busy and looking into it" suffices for me. Complete ignoring is bothersome and derelict of ones mods duties. With respect to views it was mentioned only to build legitimacy of the build in question, and establish the "tried over time" idea. You cant really have a direct comparison between two different sites.




In any event these posts are getting off topic from the purpose of this thread, which is to show a new fun sin build, and help those with an interest in making this character. I look forward to a response from a mod on my petition and kindly ask that anything not related to the guide and character be settled via pm so as not to further clutter the thread.

Good evening all.

~Zap

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 29 2009 09:12pm
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