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i acctually can only give 9/10 to this guide.. sure it should work great! if you are rich.....
There are too many "rare" items that must have this and that and the extreme thingys for your build to really work... =/

You should also fix what has been brought up earlier with the lvl 44 and lvl 45 cs....

I'm sitting here atm building my own java... And it's quite hard to Reach all the BP's for sure.. but with some mixture it works.. I've figured out 2-3 different ways now to get the 95ias bp 86fhr bp and lvl 45 cs though i don't know how much dmg this build will do... And I don't know it's res.. havn't calculated it yet...
using:

Shako 15/15 icon_pointl.gif Gives 15ias, 15@, 2sk, 10dr
Sandstorms icon_pointl.gif Gives 20Fhr, 20frw
Verdungo's icon_pointl.gif Gives 10fhr, 10-15dr
Ravenfrost icon_pointl.gif ofc?
Enigma MP/AP icon_pointl.gif Gives 2sk, 8dr, 45frw
Mara icon_pointl.gif Gives 2sk, 20-30@
Jmod 60/60 icon_pointl.gif Gives 60ias, 60@ icon_pointl.gif I rly could find any good/cheap build without using this shield :'(
Eth Upd Titans icon_pointl.gif Gives 4sk, 30frw
2/20/dex/res Gloves icon_pointl.gif 2sk, 20ias, xx random res
fcr/dex/Res Ring icon_pointl.gif xx random res, 10fcr

giving +12sk | +95ias | +30fhr | +95frw | atleast +105@ with 30 mara | +33dr using perf verdu
+13sk and rest of fhr/res will you get from anni/torch/sks/sc's
though this is better for pvm than pvp...

also should work to use

3/20 Gloves 3sk, 20ias
Eth uped titans 4sk, 30frw
'60/60' Jmod 60ias, 60@
'15/15' Griff 1sk, 15ias, 15@
Mara 2sk, 30@
Enigma MP/AP 2sk, 8dr, 45frw
Ravenfrost ofc?
Verdungo's 15dr, 10fhr
Sandstorm 20fhr, 20frw
fcr/dex/res Ring Random of your choise

Giving: +12sk | +95ias | +95frw | +30fhr | +105@ | 23dr
+13sk and rest of fhr/res you get from anni/torch/sks/sc's

this would maybe work for pvp too...

And when I make a character.. I try always to make it so I don't have to swap equip when duelling different characters...

And both these build will work with CoH instead of Enigma... You will just loose some frw/teleport... but you can always use sc's and 7frw sks instead! cuz you gain alot of res!

And if you don't want to have ur inventory filled with charms/sks when maybe doing diaruns..? then you can just swap maybe the leftover ring to a soj/bk (this is if you still rly want the lvl45 cs....)

This post was edited by eLmoBoy on Nov 12 2008 03:58pm
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Quote (eLmoBoy @ Wed, Nov 12 2008, 03:56pm)
i acctually can only give 9/10 to this guide.. sure it should work great! if you are rich.....
There are too many "rare" items that must have this and that and the extreme thingys for your build to really work... =/
You can make this build very cheap if you just use SS setup all the time.

You should also fix what has been brought up earlier with the lvl 44 and lvl 45 cs....
I wouldn't use lvl 45 CS.  You sacrifice too much to do a bit more damage.  It is more important to all the breakpoints and have good resistance then to hit 45 cs

I'm sitting here atm building my own java... And it's quite hard to Reach all the BP's for sure.. but with some mixture it works.. I've figured out 2-3 different ways now to get the 95ias bp 86fhr bp and lvl 45 cs though i don't know how much dmg this build will do... And I don't know it's res.. havn't calculated it yet...
using:

Shako 15/15 icon_pointl.gif Gives 15ias, 15@, 2sk, 10dr
Sandstorms icon_pointl.gif Gives 20Fhr, 20frw
Verdungo's icon_pointl.gif Gives 10fhr, 10-15dr
Ravenfrost icon_pointl.gif ofc?
Enigma MP/AP icon_pointl.gif Gives 2sk, 8dr, 45frw
Mara icon_pointl.gif Gives 2sk, 20-30@
Jmod 60/60 icon_pointl.gif Gives 60ias, 60@ icon_pointl.gif I rly could find any good/cheap build without using this shield :'(
Eth Upd Titans icon_pointl.gif Gives 4sk, 30frw
2/20/dex/res Gloves icon_pointl.gif 2sk, 20ias, xx random res
fcr/dex/Res Ring icon_pointl.gif xx random res, 10fcr
You go for lvl 45cs but without your +% from griff and possible 20/20 jmod, your damage would be much lower then my build.


giving +12sk | +95ias | +30fhr | +95frw | atleast +105@ with 30 mara | +33dr using perf verdu
+13sk and rest of fhr/res will you get from anni/torch/sks/sc's
though this is better for pvm than pvp...

also should work to use

3/20 Gloves 3sk, 20ias
Eth uped titans 4sk, 30frw
'60/60' Jmod 60ias, 60@
'15/15' Griff 1sk, 15ias, 15@
Mara 2sk, 30@
Enigma MP/AP 2sk, 8dr, 45frw
Ravenfrost ofc?
Verdungo's 15dr, 10fhr
Sandstorm 20fhr, 20frw
fcr/dex/res Ring Random of your choise

Giving: +12sk | +95ias | +95frw | +30fhr | +105@ | 23dr
+13sk and rest of fhr/res you get from anni/torch/sks/sc's

this would maybe work for pvp too...

And when I make a character.. I try always to make it so I don't have to swap equip when duelling different characters...
I hardly gear switch.  I have my SS setup on 99.9% of the time.

And both these build will work with CoH instead of Enigma... You will just loose some frw/teleport... but you can always use sc's and 7frw sks instead! cuz you gain alot of res!
Mobility is the most important part to being effective in legit pvp.  I wouldn't build a java without it.

And if you don't want to have ur inventory filled with charms/sks when maybe doing diaruns..? then you can just swap maybe the leftover ring to a soj/bk (this is if you still rly want the lvl45 cs....)
I didn't really have pvm in mind when I did this build.  It would be much different if it was.


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can't quote the quote etc. you get it.. tongue.gif

But what I was aiming for was not only to reach all the bp's mentioned earlier.. it was to drag down the price of the amazon too..

I bet with your build it must have cost ATLEAST over 1k fg... due to all the rare pieces...

with the 1st build of my it wouldn't cost more than.. 1k fg... and that's all due to the Jmod 60/60..
though
the 2nd build will cost a little bit more.. it's still cheaper than going for all the rares.....

And for the +45 sk....
lets say you do 10k cs dmg with lvl 44... sending out lets say 11bolts... that is 110k dmg total...
now lets say you use my second build getting lvl 45 and using griff... that would probably give a little bit over 10k dmg or even 11k dmg? and then it would be 12bolts*11k.. = 10*11=110+11*2=110+22=132k dmg..

result is that getting +45 sks = about 20k more dmg... and that can be quite useful...

"I didn't really have pvm in mind when I did this build. It would be much different if it was." icon_pointl.gif How would it be different? ohmy.gif please post just a quick "guide" of what items you probably would use...?

This post was edited by eLmoBoy on Nov 12 2008 04:35pm
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Quote (eLmoBoy @ Wed, Nov 12 2008, 04:35pm)
can't quote the quote etc. you get it.. tongue.gif

But what I was aiming for was not only to reach all the bp's mentioned earlier.. it was to drag down the price of the amazon too..

I bet with your build it must have cost ATLEAST over 1k fg... due to all the rare pieces...

with the 1st build of my it wouldn't cost more than.. 1k fg... and that's all due to the Jmod 60/60..
though
the 2nd build will cost a little bit more.. it's still cheaper than going for all the rares.....
Jmod is the most expensive item in the build

And for the +45 sk....
lets say you do 10k cs dmg with lvl 44... sending out lets say 11bolts... that is 110k dmg total...
now lets say you use my second build getting lvl 45 and using griff... that would probably give a little bit over 10k dmg or even 11k dmg? and then it would be 12bolts*11k.. = 10*11=110+11*2=110+22=132k dmg..

result is that getting +45 sks = about 20k more dmg... and that can be quite useful...

That's the problem though.
With lvl 45CS and all your synergies maxed you do 12 @ 8838 = 106k
With lvl 43CS and all your synergies maxed you do 11 @ 8334 = 92K  With 15% griff your damage = 106k  and 20/20jmod your damage = 124k

You do not gain anything by 45 skill if you sacrifice the rest of your gear to get it. 



"I didn't really have pvm in mind when I did this build. It would be much different if it was." icon_pointl.gif How would it be different? ohmy.gif please post just a quick "guide" of what items you probably would use...?

I may work on pvm guide but I would use etitans and Pheonix shield for redemption





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nice guide..
finally javazon with nigma


exactly what i thought
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my gear setup is

e titans
griff
cats eye
raven
soj
arach
treks
ss(facet)
enigma
9x java lifers
10xlifer scs
torch
anni


but i was wondering. wouldnt tstrokes fit nicely into a build like this?
4skills
ias
-15%enemy lite res
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