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Jun 25 2009 01:43pm
31+ ias Grief pb – decent ias (5 frames) with good damage and venom, this is my preferred weapon.
Botd pb – high ias with mid damage (6 frames), imho grief pb is a lot better than this
Gris caddy – fastest ias but low damage (can reach 2 frames).

i thought griz caddy has more dmg than botd pb even with or w/o 4x ohms or all 40/15's
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Jul 7 2009 08:32pm
is there any setup that could use edc and rends?
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Jul 16 2009 05:23am
i'll try it
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well done :)
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Jul 22 2009 06:13am
on grief pb, ias need to be 31+.
that's "more than 31" or "31 or more"?
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Jul 26 2009 12:36pm
this guide has flaws, first of all you must have eth treks the def and str is a must

also fhr sc's arnt needed at all to reach the breakpoint

ss should never have a um in it, the only choices are cham or sheal, your wolfhowl should be eth also which means that the cham should be in the ss if not in the wolfhowl

the grief pb needs atleast 31 ias but that isnt that important or hard to get, the most important thing on the pb is the 15ed before and that its added damage is as high as possible

the stash charms should include anni, torch, and 1 warcry 12fhr gc, the rest should all go into 3frw/3max/15+ar sc's, you wont need life (i have a geared wolfbarb with no lifer sc's and easily can reach over 7k health)

and you must have maxed str mods on all items.....i believe i only put my base str to 71 and then i could str bug some of my gear (ss) with enigma or a rare 30 str belt


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Aug 26 2009 12:36am
iso better guide this is garbage
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Aug 26 2009 03:19am
lol. Nvm. It was me there read´d wrong. :S

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Quote (Abolish @ Thu, Jun 25 2009, 07:43pm)
31+ ias Grief pb – decent ias (5 frames) with good damage and venom, this is my preferred weapon.
Botd pb – high ias with mid damage (6 frames), imho grief pb is a lot better than this
Gris caddy – fastest ias but low damage (can reach 2 frames).

i thought griz caddy has more dmg than botd pb even with or w/o 4x ohms or all 40/15's


yes griz caddy is far superior than botd pb, i just put botd pb on there for someone who may want to use another weapon

Quote (globleend1 @ Sun, Jul 26 2009, 06:36pm)
this guide has flaws, first of all you must have eth treks the def and str is a must

also fhr sc's arnt needed at all to reach the breakpoint

ss should never have a um in it, the only choices are cham or sheal, your wolfhowl should be eth also which means that the cham should be in the ss if not in the wolfhowl

the grief pb  needs atleast 31 ias but that isnt that important or hard to get, the most important thing on the pb is the 15ed before and that its added damage is as high as possible

the stash charms should include anni, torch, and 1 warcry 12fhr gc, the rest should all go into 3frw/3max/15+ar sc's, you wont need life (i have a geared wolfbarb with no lifer sc's and easily can reach over 7k health)

and you must have maxed str mods on all items.....i believe i only put my base str to 71 and then i could str bug some of my gear (ss) with enigma or a rare 30 str belt


GL


fhr scs aren't needed if you're using treks but i wasn't, the def on treks is only useful against melee where open wounds from gores etc is very useful.

if you're only doing melee then eth wolfhowl is a decent idea, except that without a shael in your shield the blocking rate is far too bad, it's bad enough without losing another frame

the grief does need 31 ias and it may not be hard to get, but it sure helps, and the main reason i added it was because it's hard to find the weapon speed info for wolf barbs. i agree that extra damage on grief helps, although i just considered that common sense

the rest of your ideas are good, although i'm not sure how 1 warcry skill fares against 10max/60ar

Quote (WhoShotWho @ Wed, Aug 26 2009, 06:36am)
iso better guide, this is garbage


there is a slightly better guide in my signature

Quote (maristfox05 @ Wed, Jul 8 2009, 02:32am)
is there any setup that could use edc and rends?


not really because edc would be too slow, if you do use it then the set up will be very similar, you may need to change a couple of things around
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If anyone on us east softcore ladder is looking at building one I have a 3/5/6/6 15/14/10 cham'd wolfhowl for sale ;)
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