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Apr 10 2006 08:52am
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i dont understand the point of maxing holy shield if you aren't going to put enough stat points into dex to max block. it seems like if you're going vitality route that you'd be better off maxing charge with only a couple of points in holy shield, since it wont do any good anyway. also, correct me if i'm wrong, but you'll be charging 90% of the time, and when you charge block is cut to something like 1/3 is it not? if thats the case maxing holy shield seems even sillier


Holy Shield decreases the frames for hit recovery dramatically (even when using Charge). Having max block isn't as important for a charger as it is for a smiter or zealer version of the auradin builds.

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although , I really have lost interest in playing mine ( 2 many ppl aware that Hot Spurs & a Dwarf star ~ Effin Nullz this Build PVP )
Lets see if you guys have ur auradins after the , or should I say ... If Errr.... when the Reset Happens , or will happen ?


That is the major weakness of going solely for the Fire version (and conversely, Light has similar weaknesses with TGods and Wisp). Which is also why i prefer the hybrid version with Dream/Dragon/HoJ.

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Let's compare... a berzerker axe has a base damage of 24-71, whereas a phase blade has a base damage of 31-35. You'd have to have just over double the enhanced damage that I do in order to even match the physical damage added by just having a berzerker axe instead of a phase blade. Thanks, but even if I were to modify the character build for more of a physical damage resister than elemental I'd still use a berzerker axe.


Properly built, 90% of an Auradin's damage is coming from elemental mods on their physical attacks. On top of that, if you change some other elements of your gear (e.g. Gore Riders instead of Treks), you start dealing Crushing Blow fairly regularly. Thus, the extra physical damage isn't going to make that much of a difference.

I used a phase blade for both HoJ and Last Wish for my Auradin build simply because I already had the Dex requirement for it (since I went for max block), and I would never have to repair it (along with its rediculous attack speed). However, either one will be just as effective when attacking.
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Apr 11 2006 03:46am
Alright, here is my chars build. Something must be wrong because I get pwned in every duel.

MP Dragon
Dragon Shield w/ 45 res
328 HOJz
Dream Helm
33-17 Dungos
20-242 Raven
3ll BK
Bloodfist
Gores
Anni
Ptorch

I maxed the following:
Salvation
Resist Fire
Holy Shield
Conviction
1 Smite
1 Charge

I use charge as my right click mouse button and conviction as the active aura (left mouse button). This char gets pwned in every duel. I was told it is because I wasn't suppose to touch holy fire on the skill tree (it uses that holy fire instead of the one from my gear) so that I could max conviction. Is this the reason? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Apr 11 2006 09:55pm
Can anyone help?
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Apr 12 2006 03:17pm
say you're charging someone get a couple knockbacks, then they block one and you end up standing there smacking them with the HOJ. would having a point in zeal or vengeance and switching to one of these skills be worth the point investment for close up smacking?
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I use charge as my right click mouse button and conviction as the active aura (left mouse button). This char gets pwned in every duel. I was told it is because I wasn't suppose to touch holy fire on the skill tree (it uses that holy fire instead of the one from my gear) so that I could max conviction. Is this the reason? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Putting points into Holy Fire won't hurt you (won't help if you spend more than 1) -- but it is a prereq for Conviction, so you need 1 point into it. Since you went all fire, if someone wears a Dwarf Star, your aura will essentially be healing them (assuming they have other decent gear to reduce the damage and good resistences). I would use Dracul's instead of Bloodfist (life leech is nice -- as is life tap).

You might want to modify your gear slightly. Since you went all fire, you don't need the Dream Helm. Kira's or CoA might work better for you. Since you already have 2 Dragons, you might want to go with Beast or Last Wish as your weapon (I think Beast would probably be better in duels ... not sure though).
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Apr 13 2006 02:13am
this should be stickied

great work itallian, i use to hate because you got trusted tag in like 5 days but your really a cool guy
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Apr 13 2006 02:59am
I didn't read the whole 12 pages but only page one so I don't know if this was answered yet or not - what's the point in maxing conviction?

as said 25 is needed to get the max effect and fohers will have a higher level anyway?

I'd say +2 mara, + 1 anni, +3 torch, +1 bo, +1 ring means you need 17 points into conviction?

you could use the extra points in like resist cold or lightning for the +max resist bonus or something
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Apr 13 2006 08:27am
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I didn't read the whole 12 pages but only page one so I don't know if this was answered yet or not - what's the point in maxing conviction?

as said 25 is needed to get the max effect and fohers will have a higher level anyway?

I'd say +2 mara, + 1 anni, +3 torch, +1 bo, +1 ring means you need 17 points into conviction?

you could use the extra points in like resist cold or lightning for the +max resist bonus or something


For PvM, there is no need for higher than level 25. For PvP, the person with the higher conviction trumps the other, so if yours is level 26 and theirs is level 30, it would be like you had no aura on at all.
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Apr 16 2006 07:38pm
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this should be stickied

great work itallian, i use to hate because you got trusted tag in like 5 days but your really a cool guy


I didn't get a trusted tag in 5 days wink.gif but thank you for the kind words.

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I didn't read the whole 12 pages but only page one so I don't know if this was answered yet or not - what's the point in maxing conviction?

as said 25 is needed to get the max effect and fohers will have a higher level anyway?

I'd say +2 mara, + 1 anni, +3 torch, +1 bo, +1 ring means you need 17 points into conviction?

you could use the extra points in like resist cold or lightning for the +max resist bonus or something


Generally it's pointless because if someone dominates your conviction just swap to salvation.
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Apr 25 2006 11:43am
Figured I'd bump this back up so it's around the same area as the rest of my guides. Have fun with them everyone!
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