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Jan 5 2011 05:27pm
Quote (tudey @ Jan 6 2011 12:01am)
and its shitty as fuck

"originality" is not a good excuse for garbage builds
doesnt really matter if its a same or different item build, duels are not done with item builds


finally someone with a clue

god i thought i was the only one to believe that gmb 8fps is as shitty as trying to make a viable zon without javs

This post was edited by Octon1ggerian on Jan 5 2011 05:27pm
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Jan 5 2011 05:45pm
Quote (Octon1ggerian @ Jan 5 2011 07:27pm)
finally someone with a clue

god i thought i was the only one to believe that gmb 8fps is as shitty as trying to make a viable zon without javs


http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=15660633&f=87&p=286172228

there ya go jerk, 7 frame faith option, with javas and cube BO. Now take your hate elsewhere, ive contacted a moderator about the unnecessary spam.

if you have a problem with my guide, PM me and ill address all of your concerns. Get up your post count on your multi account somewhere else.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 5 2011 05:49pm
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Jan 5 2011 05:52pm
Yeah for this build diamond or shadow faith is definitely a win. Only time a gm faith should be used is if you are using nosf belt so you can hit 7fpa with it... If you do decide to use a gm faith please make sure you hit the 92ias bp or else it is kinda not worth it.

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Jan 5 2011 05:54pm
Quote (Spartikis @ Jan 6 2011 12:45am)
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=15660633&f=87&p=286172228

there ya go jerk, 7 frame faith option, with javas and cube BO. Now take your hate elsewhere, ive contacted a moderator about the unnecessary spam.

if you have a problem with my guide, PM me and ill address all of your concerns. Get up your post count on your multi account somewhere else.


if you don't accept criticism don't post any guide, or post a valid one

i already stated several times, on different threads, what is wrong with your guide

1 : skill placement

2 : stat placement

3 : item choice

remake then maybe we can argue
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Jan 5 2011 05:56pm
Quote (Octon1ggerian @ Jan 5 2011 06:54pm)
if you don't accept criticism don't post any guide, or post a valid one

i already stated several times, on different threads, what is wrong with your guide

1 : skill placement

2 : stat placement

3 : item choice

remake then maybe we can argue


It is his personal taiste... This build works best for him. No guide is meant to be followed exactly. Change what makes it work best for you, I doubt he would have a problem with that lol. In fact I bet he would prefer that over you bitching here how "you do it differently on your bowa".

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Quote (Kevorkian @ Jan 5 2011 07:52pm)
Yeah for this build diamond or shadow faith is definitely a win. Only time a gm faith should be used is if you are using nosf belt so you can hit 7fpa with it... If you do decide to use a gm faith please make sure you hit the 92ias bp or else it is kinda not worth it.


Yes, 7 frames with diamons is very nice, i use it a lot. If i would have taken the time to explore 0 base bows more prior to writing the guide i would have included it in the guide. This guide was written over THREE YEARS AGO! ive learned alot since then and appreciate all of the HELPFULLY comments people have contributed. Hopefully there will be more updates i can add to it the future :)

Quote (Kevorkian @ Jan 5 2011 07:56pm)
It is his personal taiste... This build works best for him. No guide is meant to be followed exactly. Change what makes it work best for you, I doubt he would have a problem with that lol. In fact I'd bet he'd prefer that over you bitching here how "you do it differently on your bowa".


exactly, im all for peaceful discussion and love when people mod the build and try new things then PM me about how they worked better or worse than the original build.

Quote (Octon1ggerian @ Jan 5 2011 07:54pm)
if you don't accept criticism don't post any guide, or post a valid one

i already stated several times, on different threads, what is wrong with your guide

1 : skill placement

2 : stat placement

3 : item choice

remake then maybe we can argue



I always accept helpful criticism, but stupid comments liek this are in no way helpful

Quote (Octon1ggerian @ Jan 5 2011 03:37pm)
gozu melee damage with that CTA, is it a phase blade or crystal sword ?

fuck lol this is so funny i cant stop it

:rofl:n


1 ) the skill placement is fine, it emphasis passive skills, d/a/e as well as critical strike. If you feel its to much of one skill be a big boy and change it on your own, dont be a winey little baby and post stupid comments about how there should be one less point here or one more there. Im not here to hold your hand, you need to function on your own and get away from cookie cutter builds.

2) again, this is fine. this is a vita zon, so one would expect lots of life, minimal dex and enough str for gear, obviously COA uses alot of str. You dont like that? feel free to not use the build. Or get a over priced 2 os rare circlet that is probably worse than a COA. Again, im not holding your hand, youre old enough to play a mature rated game, you should be capable to think on your own.

3) item choice is what makes this guide unique. This zon is a tank, using heavy items with lots of dr, res, fhr etc. If you want a weak character dont follow this guide, this is for people that say hey, i want 3.5k+ life, max dr, max res and fhr and im willing to give up some dex and dmg to get that.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 5 2011 06:06pm
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Jan 5 2011 06:01pm
0 fpa bows are kind of annoying though, you need to get base ias mat javs for it to work @_@

/e 0 wsm rather LOL

This post was edited by Tails chao on Jan 5 2011 06:14pm
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Jan 5 2011 06:04pm
Quote (Tails chao @ Jan 6 2011 01:01am)
0 fpa bows are kind of annoying though, you need to get base ias mat javs for it to work @_@


why ? he uses cta/spirit on switch
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Jan 5 2011 06:05pm
Quote (Octon1ggerian @ 6 Jan 2011 01:04)
why ? he uses cta/spirit on switch


i mean using base 0 bows in general lol

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Jan 5 2011 06:12pm
Quote (Octon1ggerian @ Jan 5 2011 08:04pm)
why ? he uses cta/spirit on switch


I think the problem here is not my guide but just your personality. Youre an antagonist, you like to make a fuss and get people arguing because thats what gets you excited. Not everyone will love a guide, and my guide is no exception, a normal person reads a guide they dont like and goes "hmm, i dont like it, thats not how i want to build my zon" and then they leave. You on the other hand start making a fuss, using bad language and personal attacks to get attention. So enjoy your 15 min of fame, smile as a couple dozen people read the thread, maybe even a couple people will post and agree with you. But at the end of the day my build is stickied and here to stay. You think its the worst guide in the world but i get multiple PMs a week from people interesting in my guide, asking me questions, asking to see my zon in game, etc....So ill say again, enjoy the attention youre getting because when this thread gets enough posts to go to another page people will forget who you are and no one will care what you have to say.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Jan 5 2011 06:14pm
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