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Mar 6 2022 04:55pm
Quote (daanno2 @ Mar 6 2022 11:48pm)
wasn't aware that main hand/off hand mattered for frenzy. but remember, this is vs bosses where the 100% ds isn't taken into account. It may be that 2x headstriker best for Trav.

DS is always taken into account in DPS, there's a CB malus vs bosses but no DS malus. I wrote it wrong in the previous comment. I wrote 2x headstriker but meant 1x headstriker. 2x Headstriker does so much damage an oath won't matter even if headstriker hits slower but grief mainhand + headstriker offhand is another story. I can do that test on mephisto. A moment :D

I am getting strange results:
Arreat's on
48 seconds
Guilli on
28 seconds

Maybe, the 21s result was a freak accident. I am going to test again with 2x headstriker and guilli.

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DS is always taken into account in DPS, there's a CB malus vs bosses but no DS malus. I wrote it wrong in the previous comment. I wrote 2x headstriker but meant 1x headstriker. 2x Headstriker does so much damage an oath won't matter even if headstriker hits slower but grief mainhand + headstriker offhand is another story. I can do that test on mephisto. A moment :D


you're right, i must be misremembering it with something else that doesn't work on bosses. so that explains the "double dps" impression I was getting.
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I did 5 runs, all of them were around 32 seconds with 2x headstriker. After all the tests I conducted, grief pb + eth upped headstriker seems to be the most damaging setup.
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Has anyone tried a crescent moon off hand for the merc with a lower resist wand on swap vs council, could be spicy. maybe an atma's on your character to proc some amp damage with frenzy after the static field goes off a few times.
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DS is always taken into account in DPS, there's a CB malus vs bosses but no DS malus. I wrote it wrong in the previous comment. I wrote 2x headstriker but meant 1x headstriker. 2x Headstriker does so much damage an oath won't matter even if headstriker hits slower but grief mainhand + headstriker offhand is another story. I can do that test on mephisto. A moment :D

I am getting strange results:
Arreat's on
48 seconds
Guilli on
28 seconds

Maybe, the 21s result was a freak accident. I am going to test again with 2x headstriker and guilli.


None of the tests with Gface on Meph really means anything tbh, it just gets in the way of measuring real dps since CB is doing so much work. On Trav councol, CB's effect is marginal at best.

Quote (babun1024 @ Mar 6 2022 06:09pm)
I did 5 runs, all of them were around 32 seconds with 2x headstriker. After all the tests I conducted, grief pb + eth upped headstriker seems to be the most damaging setup.


This makes sense because with grief main hand ias, you're probably getting more CB procs in. Should take off gface and retest with Arreats for better control.
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Mar 6 2022 05:18pm
Quote (daanno2 @ Mar 7 2022 12:14am)
None of the tests with Gface on Meph really means anything tbh, it just gets in the way of measuring real dps since CB is doing so much work. On Trav councol, CB's effect is marginal at best.



This makes sense because with grief main hand ias, you're probably getting more CB procs in. Should take off gface and retest with Arreats for better control.

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I am getting strange results:
Arreat's on
48 seconds




But I said already in my previous post, grief+headstriker with arreat averages 48seconds. 2x headstriker was at 50-55s.

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But I said already in my previous post, grief+headstriker with arreat averages 48seconds. 2x headstriker was at 50-55s.


ah ok, interesting. going to fiddle around with an ias calculator to see if there's possibily a better combination.
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Quote (daanno2 @ Mar 7 2022 12:23am)
ah ok, interesting. going to fiddle around with an ias calculator to see if there's possibily a better combination.

I am going to sleep. An interesting test would be to socket both eth head strikers with pul runes. Each of them offers +75ed to demons.
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Mar 6 2022 05:26pm
Quote (babun1024 @ 6 Mar 2022 18:24)
I am going to sleep. An interesting test would be to socket both eth head strikers with pul runes. Each of them offers +75ed to demons.


Would be better to get flat 30dmg or 15ias/15max since they multiply the +max by 3 historically

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Quote (babun1024 @ Mar 6 2022 06:24pm)
I am going to sleep. An interesting test would be to socket both eth head strikers with pul runes. Each of them offers +75ed to demons.


the 75% dtd would count as regular off weapon ed, so it's not going to be better than the 50% on weapon ed from Ohm.

Looks like boring 2x Grief is still best after all.
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