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Mar 6 2022 03:45pm
Quote (daanno2 @ Mar 6 2022 10:13pm)
Thanks for the videos. I think generally, while this topic is obviously about Trav GF, I'm more interested in the raw dps output, and trav has too many variables to account for to measure accurately.

I did the follow tests on bnet on meph (used max battlecry to reduce his defence as much as possible). Equip was Arreats + CoH.

run1 dual grief:43s
run2 dual grief: 47s

run3 1xgrief: 50s
run4 1xgrief: 50s

run5 1x bk sword: 122s
run6 2x bk sword: 119s

Oath 340% NON ETH cryptic sword 22-338dmg, 180avg
run7 64s
run8 70s

LW PB (CB did most of the work)
35s

Could you perform the same test with 1x eth up'd headstriker and 2x eth up'd headstriker? No need for video, just post the time to kill.

1x head striker 75 seconds
2x headstriker 50 seconds

I'll exchange arreat for my setup with guilli, will edit soon.
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1x head striker 75 seconds
2x headstriker 50 seconds

I'll exchange arreat for my setup with guilli, will edit soon.


these times are with gface or arreats? if arreats, that pretty much confirms the dps bug still exists right? not to mention, the deadly strike isn't even kicking in for bosses.
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these times are with gface or arreats? if arreats, that pretty much confirms the dps bug still exists right? not to mention, the deadly strike isn't even kicking in for bosses.


They were done with arreats but behold, with guilli:
1 x eth upped headstriker 33 seconds
2 x eth upped headstriker 21 seconds

I think using arreats on that merc is a mistake like any other frenzy barb using one. You should be using guilliamo's face, cham-ed for best results.

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They were done with arreats but behold, with guilli:
1 x eth upped headstriker 33 seconds
2 x eth upped headstriker 21 seconds


right, no surprise there. when i used 2x LW it was like 16s lol. But the point was really to exclude CB in order to measure how dps of swords is calculated.

So it looks like vs trav, dual eth upp'd headstrikers will still carry the day? Or maybe a highroll eth oath conquest sword.
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right, no surprise there. when i used 2x LW it was like 16s lol. But the point was really to exclude CB in order to measure how dps of swords is calculated.

So it looks like vs trav, dual eth upp'd headstrikers will still carry the day? Or maybe a highroll eth oath conquest sword.

If you have a look at the double headstriker and grief + headstriker video you'll notice there's lots of carryover from the real frenzy barb. IAS from grief main hand helps to accelerate headstriker offhand. It might be that an oath cryptic axe combined with headstriker would yield better results than 2x headstriker.
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Mar 6 2022 04:40pm
21 SECONDS with 2x Headstriker/GFace is next level.

15ias/15max jewels in upped Eth + CoH for LL and Cham'd GFace then? Ber runes might even work at that point, idk.

Could be that +30dmg is best.

Either way, insane numbers if it goes live.

This post was edited by Exokek on Mar 6 2022 04:44pm
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right, no surprise there. when i used 2x LW it was like 16s lol. But the point was really to exclude CB in order to measure how dps of swords is calculated.

So it looks like vs trav, dual eth upp'd headstrikers will still carry the day? Or maybe a highroll eth oath conquest sword.

I tested oath cryptic sword + eth upped headstriker:
headstriker mainhand + oath cryptic offhand = 70 seconds
oath cryptic sword mainhand + headstriker offhand = 55 seconds
My assumption was right. 2 x headstriker lacks IAS. Even one headstriker is good enough if the mainhand weapon is fast enough to accelerate it.

All tests with arreat's face instead of guilli.

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21 SECONDS with 2x Headstriker/GFace is next level.

15ias/15max jewels in upped Eth + CoH for LL and Cham'd GFace then? Ber runes might even work at that point, idk.

Could be that +30dmg is best.

Either way, insane numbers if it goes live.


this is vs meph, where CB is doing a lot of work lol.

Quote (babun1024 @ Mar 6 2022 05:44pm)
I tested oath cryptic sword + eth upped headstriker:
headstriker mainhand + oath cryptic offhand = 70 seconds
oath cryptic sword mainhand + headstriker offhand = 55 seconds
My assumption was right. 2 x headstriker lacks IAS. Even one headstriker is good enough if the mainhand weapon is fast enough to accelerate it.

All tests with arreat's face instead of guilli.


wasn't aware that main hand/off hand mattered for frenzy. but remember, this is vs bosses where the 100% ds isn't taken into account. It may be that 2x headstriker best for Trav.
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this is vs meph, where CB is doing a lot of work lol.



wasn't aware that main hand/off hand mattered for frenzy. but remember, this is vs bosses where the 100% ds isn't taken into account. It may be that 2x headstriker best for Trav.


OOOH LOL

I thought it was Trav, jfc

Yeah for Trav testing you wanna do like 2-3 gold caps.

This post was edited by Exokek on Mar 6 2022 04:50pm
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OOOH LOL

I thought it was Trav, jfc

Yeah for Trav testing you wanna do like 2-3 gold caps.


Really just trying to nail down how dps is calculated for a5 mercs by excluding as many variables as possible (hence why testing on meph - large health pool, no healing etc) and then apply lessons to trav council.
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