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Jul 20 2010 09:56am
Quote (Ekaan @ Jul 20 2010 11:54am)
you have fighted about this since this morning, who need to shut off computer and get a life? =P


I don't know. Are you implying assumptions about my life as well?

Man you all are some real "know it all" mother fuckers in here.
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Quote (Noob_Nova @ 20 Jul 2010 16:53)
Assume more asinine shit. It just so happens that I am a pro musician. Hence the free time to sit on my ass and argue this stuff.

Get a life kid.


You have sit on this forum whole day & morning & night, so stfu :rofl:

Quote (Noob_Nova @ 20 Jul 2010 16:56)
I don't know. Are you implying assumptions about my life as well?

Man you all are some real "know it all" mother fuckers in here.


I'd like to know what you jsut did few posts earlier?

This post was edited by Dorieus on Jul 20 2010 09:57am
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Jul 20 2010 09:59am
Quote (Ekaan @ Jul 20 2010 04:54pm)
you have fighted about this since this morning, who need to shut off computer and get a life? =P


i think this thread started yesterday btw
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Jul 20 2010 10:00am
Quote (diablo_es @ 20 Jul 2010 16:59)
i think this thread started yesterday btw


yes but i was talking about today :)
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Jul 20 2010 10:02am
Quote (Dorieus @ Jul 20 2010 11:42am)
Still waiting for proper arguments against my pelt.


I have made several proper arguments.

Your false belief in that 20 str on jalal's is not useful, but 20 str on a ring is useful will prevent you from perceiving the truth.

Your false belief that a 163% fcr druid doesn't need dex is even more irrational. These are two unrelated things. Dex effects block percentage, or your total amount of life if you are max block. Fcr and dex are independent of each other. Dex does not give you a higher cast rate percentage. Although this is what you are implying.

Finally. Your pelt is a 2-3 Nado pelt. The topic title, and entire thesis is based on a 3-3 nado pelt. Congratulations at taking the argument out of context in order to manipulate and perverse the truth in your favor of winning, even though your win is a lie.
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Jul 20 2010 10:05am
I can't believe what i just read... Noob_Nova, are you brain-damaged??? You don't even know how to build a druid, and you're trying to argue about a helm choice??

I'll list you some of the classical builds (which are used by best pvp'ers on all realms)

Non-bugbelt setup :

Coa BerBer (when needing dr) / Pelt 5nado 30fhr life res (shael) (when not needing dr) / Circlet 2-20-30frw-shael+Lo (Vs trapsin)
Enigma
Suicide Branch 20life-15res Jewel
Spirit Monarch 35fcr
Arach (when using Coa or Pelt) / TG (when using Circlet)
2x 10fcr 17+str 35+life xxres rings
Amulet 2dru 18+fcr xxlife mods
Sandstorm 15-15 (here is your psn res ^^ )
TO gloves
Torch + Anni
9x 4xlife Ele Skillers
10x life/res Scs

Bugbelt Setup :

Circlet(s) 2-20-2socks + adds (rich people have a set of them, depending on the opponent - example : 2druid 20fcr 2socks 49life 22fr)
Enigma
Suicide Branch
Spirit
Bugbelt
1x 10fcr 17+str 35+life xxres ring + 1x 10fcr xstr 50+life xxres ring
Amulet 2dru 18+fcr xxlife mods
Sands 15-15 or gg frw-fhr-tri res boots
TO gloves
Torch + Anni
9x 4xlife Ele Skillers
10x life/res Scs


Those are the best setups possible. Now, some may want to have a 99fcr/99fhr MB maxDr setup, but STASHED, not as main setup (because 99fcr is just slow as hell), so that's how they do :
2-20-xxdext-xxlife circlet (with 7-9-9-9 Jool)
Enigma
Hoto
Storm "Eld"
Verdungo
1x 10fcr 20str 15dext xxmana res ring + 1x 10fcr 15dext 35+life ring
Amulet 2dru 19+fcr xxdext
Shadow Dancers 25dext
Bloodfist
Torch + Anni
8x 4xlife Skillers + 1x 12fhr skiller
10x life/res scs



I hope you now understand how impossible is the use of a jalals, since you NEED to be able to switch of Helm, regarding on the opponent. That's why you can't rely on Jalals' str at all, since you wouldn't be able to switch it then. So, as i demonstrated you that str on jalals was useless, the remaining stats which can have a use are : +2dru skills / 30fhr / 30res and that's all. I hope you now understand how inferior is Jalals face to pelts/coa/circlets combo.
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Jul 20 2010 10:06am
Quote (Dorieus @ Jul 20 2010 11:56am)
163fcr build = big no for max block.
Your faster block rate with spirit is so slow, that you don't want to block with it --> dex is useless, or even harmful.
And yes, you DID assume the build is 163:
From the first post.

And we are are comparing jalals and pelt, the same limitations work with jalals when going 163fcr.

Again, you based your argument on opinion: "Your pelt sux".
Give me good reasons why it sux. It just beat your jalals:
30@ vs 39bo-able life and 580 damage, which is almost 100dmg more after pvp penalty.


it did not beat jalal's

infact we have already determined that jalal's has 2 more life

Also jalal's has a 30 res all mod. Or do you not need psn resistance?
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Jul 20 2010 10:07am
Quote (Noob_Nova @ 20 Jul 2010 17:02)
I have made several proper arguments.

Your false belief in that 20 str on jalal's is not useful, but 20 str on a ring is useful will prevent you from perceiving the truth.

Your false belief that a 163% fcr druid doesn't need dex is even more irrational. These are two unrelated things. Dex effects block percentage, or your total amount of life if you are max block. Fcr and dex are independent of each other. Dex does not give you a higher cast rate percentage. Although this is what you are implying.

Finally. Your pelt is a 2-3 Nado pelt. The topic title, and entire thesis is based on a 3-3 nado pelt. Congratulations at taking the argument out of context in order to manipulate and perverse the truth in your favor of winning, even though your win is a lie.


1) It is not a false belief that I do not need the str from helm, since I can get it from other items, which can't have more useful mods.

2) I have never said dex has anything to do with fcr, don't make up things from your head. And as I said before: Spirit shields low faster block rate makes you not want to block, thus you dont want that fucking dex from ring, you want str instead, which allows you to use pelt, which allows you to get 580 more damage and 40 more life.

3) Yes, my pelt is a 2-3 Nado pelt. I don't care what the topic titlse says, you have posted yourself ~10 times (SHOW ME A PELT THAT IS BETTER THAN THIS: (insert stupid pic of jalals here).

4) I haven't manipulated anything, I have proven succesfully to you that nado pelt > Jalals, get over it.

This post was edited by Dorieus on Jul 20 2010 10:09am
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Quote (Dorieus @ Jul 20 2010 11:56am)
You have sit on this forum whole day & morning & night, so stfu :rofl:


That's kuz I can.

Stfu? U mad?

I'll stfu when I decide to stfu.
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