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Dec 17 2009 03:42am
1 hit
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Dec 17 2009 11:24pm
Quote (simppeli2 @ Dec 17 2009 10:42am)
1 hit


2 Hit...
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Dec 19 2009 03:54pm
Quote (simppeli2 @ Dec 17 2009 04:42am)
1 hit


From an ebotdarchon charger maybe... Otherwise you're shitting yourself.

Quote (Ziecheik @ Dec 16 2009 09:27am)
slow is capped to 50% for the amount the player can be slowed by but more slow% will still count towards reaching that 50% if the opponent has ias stack, which may be just a few % over his bp, or might be intentional ias stack to reduce slow%
on a side note I never understood why everyone cries so damn much over slow. its not the slightest bit unfair imo, it can be negated if really necessary, or hits can just be avoided, most equipment that gives slow% is bad in one way or another considering what other options exist. I have this theory that it might just be an old stigma from 09 permaslow, which doesn't exist anymore. but ya, people keep on crying for years now. don't get it.


This ofc :]~

Quote (riduckulous @ Dec 16 2009 08:48am)
Stopped reading there


...I stopped caring
^ there.

Quote (Tails chao @ Dec 16 2009 08:30am)
he's a shitty nec if sm destroyed him that badly lol


I've met maybe 2 necros who duel well with sm...


Quote (Pimpslapper @ Dec 15 2009 12:43am)
Any doubters on Europe ladder feel free to Msg. me.
Oh, and BUMP.

A little story...

A very skillled necro beat me down 5-0, but then he used Bone Prison on me when I was naked and killed me, WTF?  Totally unnecessary, it was GM, but lopsided in his favor until then.  I couldn't beat him, but still stayed GM, trying to learn to duel a good necro.  Well, it is my opinion, that it is a mistake for a Necro to BM an Amazon.  Anyway, SM for the noob and he went from gozu to fodder for even the level 75 sorcs in the game and he eventually left.  SM makes a gozu necro fodder, pretty funny shit.  I wish it worked on Hammerdins hehe, or does it??oO 

Also, I am loving the Paladin duels now.  Pretty much beat them every time, except hammerdins with aim hacks and very gozu smiters.  Of course, if they catch you with the bow out, you are dead in two hits, but hey, we all get unlucky from time to time eh? 
I am collecting videos this week and will post it on Youtube this weekend hopefully for all to see how much fun this build is.

Ciao,
Pimp



doesn't do crap to hammerdins :[

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Dec 19 2009 03:54pm
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Dec 19 2009 06:27pm
Quote (sorowfulhatred @ 19 Dec 2009 22:54)
From an ebotdarchon charger maybe... Otherwise you're shitting yourself.



This ofc :]~



    ...I stopped caring
^ there.



I've met maybe 2 necros who duel well with sm...





doesn't do crap to hammerdins :[


SM is gm on East nl, any Necro will have to be prepared for it. vs a normal bowazon I believe a vit nec to have a small advantage over a zon even with sm, and mb necs to have a large advantage.
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Dec 20 2009 12:18am
Quote (Tails chao @ Dec 19 2009 07:27pm)
SM is gm on East nl, any Necro will have to be prepared for it. vs a normal bowazon I believe a vit nec to have a small advantage over a zon even with sm, and mb necs to have a large advantage.


I don't disagree with the normal bowazon comment at all and [good] necros are still difficult for any type of zon, but the increased mobility and damage differences within this build tend to level out the playing field more for zon v necro.
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Dec 20 2009 01:25am
Quote (sorowfulhatred @ Dec 20 2009 07:18am)
I don't disagree with the normal bowazon comment at all and [good] necros are still difficult for any type of zon, but the increased mobility and damage differences within this build tend to level out the playing field more for zon v necro.


Agree with this, and while SM is considered BM on EU ladder, it doesn't stop me from using it vs ANY necro who throws a bone prison or any town camping Amazon. As for the whole slow issue, well, tough titty little kitty. In pubs, the discussion is useless. My Vs All setup has no slow, but if I enter a game with only paladins in it, on come the cleglaws...

Let the pub duelers bitch about it as they drink their pots, camp outside of town, and NK you IMO.

Oh, and still loving this build. I met the first vita amazon yesterday who gave me troubles though, so we met in a private game and duelled. He had top gear and was doing 5.6 GA damage (my gear is crap, but my charms are pimp). I got him a couple of times, but he flat-out got the best of me. The best was him complaining though because I pre-bo'd. oO "IMO you should either have Wiz or CTA, but it is unfair to use both, again, this time no BO kk thanks" oO
Hope to get a video up before Xmas, but work is kicking my ass right now, and we got a baby on the way, so lots of RL stuff to keep me busy!

EDIT- Oh, and I have yet to be one-hit by any player in this game with this amazon.

This post was edited by Pimpslapper on Dec 20 2009 01:26am
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#1047
Dec 20 2009 03:06am
Quote (Pimpslapper @ 15 Dec 2009 07:43)
Any doubters on Europe ladder feel free to Msg. me.
Oh, and BUMP.

A little story...

A very skillled necro beat me down 5-0, but then he used Bone Prison on me when I was naked and killed me, WTF?  Totally unnecessary, it was GM, but lopsided in his favor until then.  I couldn't beat him, but still stayed GM, trying to learn to duel a good necro.  Well, it is my opinion, that it is a mistake for a Necro to BM an Amazon.  Anyway, SM for the noob and he went from gozu to fodder for even the level 75 sorcs in the game and he eventually left.  SM makes a gozu necro fodder, pretty funny shit.  I wish it worked on Hammerdins hehe, or does it??oO 

Also, I am loving the Paladin duels now.  Pretty much beat them every time, except hammerdins with aim hacks and very gozu smiters.  Of course, if they catch you with the bow out, you are dead in two hits, but hey, we all get unlucky from time to time eh? 
I am collecting videos this week and will post it on Youtube this weekend hopefully for all to see how much fun this build is.

Ciao,
Pimp


The necro was pretty bad then, he could just prison and jump you lol
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Dec 20 2009 03:45am
Quote (tudey @ Dec 20 2009 10:06am)
The necro was pretty bad then, he could just prison and jump you lol


and I could just tele...
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#1049
Dec 20 2009 03:50am
Quote (Pimpslapper @ 20 Dec 2009 11:45)
and I could just tele...


yes, obviously you can tele, but they can chainlock your sloooow tele down if they are any good.
and they can decrep you as well if its about bm (since both sm and decrep are bm at eu)

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#1050
Dec 20 2009 10:26am
Quote (sorowfulhatred @ 20 Dec 2009 07:18)
I don't disagree with the normal bowazon comment at all and [good] necros are still difficult for any type of zon, but the increased mobility and damage differences within this build tend to level out the playing field more for zon v necro.


I've had to play dumb high fcr donor set tele bowazons on d2pk with 6k damage and 20% chance to be uninterruptable with 2 minions for summon stack, which would be the closest i've dueled to this build I guess. I'm still pretty confident a nec that's slow missled against this build shouldn't get destroyed, though admittedly that is with decrep.
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