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Jul 15 2009 05:16am
Quote (young2093 @ Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 12:12)
Bui over rates 50% DR a LOT.


50% dr > 39% dr

simple as that
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Wed, Jul 15 2009, 12:33am)
yea if u play east let me know. i'll duel your barb with my vt and show you why even with 50% DR its hard... with 39% against a good vt will be practically impossible...



bullshit, tg + angelic rings+ stack in inventory is the best choice
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Jul 15 2009 05:41am
Quote (Pari @ Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 05:16)
50% dr > 39% dr

simple as that


Well of course, but that are other factors. It's clearly not worth it if your losing something better.
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Jul 15 2009 05:43am
Quote (young2093 @ Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 12:41)
Well of course, but that are other factors. It's clearly not worth it if your losing something better.


hmm yes i just read that it's a barb
well tricky one then

barb should rape v/t anyway, and especially bui's shit zaka one olololol
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Jul 15 2009 05:59am
Quote (Pari @ Wed, Jul 15 2009, 11:16am)
50% dr > 39% dr

simple as that


no one denies this but as you stated in a leter post its difficult for barb as you lose alot of ar with wisp etc
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Jul 15 2009 07:08am
Quote (Pari @ Wed, Jul 15 2009, 07:43am)
hmm yes i just read that it's a barb
well tricky one then

barb should rape v/t anyway, and especially bui's shit zaka one olololol


you spam and talk a lot of smack but have nothing to back it up with.

on east, exile and life tap is bm... zak > spirit overall because fcr from something like a spirit is only needed in a few setups and i'd rather have a swap for those setups then build my character with it (i still get max block with spirit/coa if i use ravens)

go make a barb on east or d2pk (shoppable only items) and duel me if you are so confident. i've never lost to a barb on east b4 and i dont plan on u being the first one.

if you cant back up your words than your accusations really dont mean anything but act as spam. so i suggest u stop before the mods give you a 10%

Quote (halo273 @ Wed, Jul 15 2009, 06:52am)
no im not on east sadly on europe nl but wisp u lose ar which you can't afford either i play vs decent smiters only with 39% pdr very rare ive had to take 50% but yeah don't agree with the wisp usage id too rather have 39% with tg than 50% with wisp


on diff realms diff stuff is gm. like u guys have bbelt and stuff and exile on your realm is gm. so ur builds would be diff from ours.

and yea, i guess wisp isnt the best choice. u really dont have a choice but to tgod + stack inventory + 39 dr vs a vt. and i dunno about your realm, but if the vt plays smart enough u wont be able to clip him and doing anything else will get you killed.

vs an average vt, sure the barb can win. but vs a smarter player, most of the duels will go to the vt (perhaps 65% : 35% win ratio if not more)

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jul 15 2009 07:14am
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Great Guide <3
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Quote (Azn Masta @ Wed, 15 Jul 2009, 14:08)
you spam and talk a lot of smack but have nothing to back it up with.

on east, exile and life tap is bm... zak > spirit overall because fcr from something like a spirit is only needed in a few setups and i'd rather have a swap for those setups then build my character with it (i still get max block with spirit/coa if i use ravens)

go make a barb on east or d2pk (shoppable only items) and duel me if you are so confident. i've never lost to a barb on east b4 and i dont plan on u being the first one.

if you cant back up your words than your accusations really dont mean anything but act as spam. so i suggest u stop before the mods give you a 10%



on diff realms diff stuff is gm. like u guys have bbelt and stuff and exile on your realm is gm. so ur builds would be diff from ours.

and yea, i guess wisp isnt the best choice. u really dont have a choice but to tgod + stack inventory + 39 dr vs a vt. and i dunno about your realm, but if the vt plays smart enough u wont be able to clip him and doing anything else will get you killed.

vs an average vt, sure the barb can win. but vs a smarter player, most of the duels will go to the vt (perhaps 65% : 35% win ratio if not more)


so you duel a barb with 0 fcr and 10 fhr ahahahah
even with exile and bb a barb > v/t
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Jul 15 2009 08:01am
you just think life is anything

you have no flexibility at all, this build is only good for shit matches like v/t vs v/t
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Jul 15 2009 08:07am
Quote (Pari @ Wed, Jul 15 2009, 09:01am)
you just think life is anything

you have no flexibility at all, this build is only good for shit matches like v/t vs v/t


his build can have a 75fcr setup with 86fhr and a tap setup as well. and theres no real need for fcr. barbs only have 1 attack they can use vs the vt - ww. if they switch to bow its ez charge/smite. and if they get close to ww, the vt only has to move in the path and smite. if they dont attack, you can just sit back and spam FOH all day.

Perhaps this is not the best build for eu but then again east does not have bbelt so gear choices are limited

and maybe the vts on your realm all suck. theres a lot of factors that come to play here. on east for example vt vs barb is almost a clear cut win for the V/T

if you dont think this setup works, then what would you suggest for a build (keep in mind that there is no bbelt option)

This post was edited by mailisa on Jul 15 2009 08:08am
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