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Quote (Endurack @ Tue, Jun 27 2006, 06:42am)
All of you talk shit and say hey this number is higher so it means its better, wrong. So many things factor in to heavy damage it isnt even funny. Criticals (with 7,012 WW thats 1 hit KO), Deadlys, max Damage hits and Crushings trigger sometimes as well.... Majority of casters have minimal Damage Reduction. Heavy Damage destroys them.


as i said before you can cry all you want; it wont change facts. if you think that a weapons MAXIMUM damage is more important than it's average you're a fucking retard. last time i checked botd didn't have any deadly strike. grief has though, sorry. any half decent caster has max dr and block. you just duel weak pubs. i can beat jsp-randoms with my botd thundermaul-barb as well, it doesn't mean that thundermauls are optimal. get it ignorant?
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Quote (luis19 @ Tue, Jun 27 2006, 10:31am)
Nearly everything you said about my guide and barbs and dueling are wrong.
Looks like you got nked/owned by blobs and mcm on west so you come here bashing my guide based on a similar build.
Sounds like a personal problem to me.

You shouldnt really waste your time trying to get me angry or start and e-argument because really I dont bother with idiots nor do I get angry from a game forum unlike the vast majority of nerds on jsp pvp.


This is what we actually call a "dodge nub"

He stated clearly that he has beaten 3 people from this forum, and it's true, then why are you defending yourself when he keeps defeating his opponents? Sure, he could made some wrong equipment choices, but I think Endurack is very skilled with the BvC. By the way, did you ever tried using a Grief BA? And what if not, I'm sure you're damage will reach higher with it then your BotD...

- LP


you are what we actually call an asslicker. i must ask though, are you really so fucking ignorant that you buy all of eunuchs' mindless blabbering? open your eyes, beating some randoms doesn't make you right. last time i checked a barb with max shout and max block was built to duel other barbs. running until your weak pub opponent gets bored and lets you jump him isn't exactly "skill".
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Jun 27 2006 07:14am
idiots...baffles me how stupid ppl are.
my build isnt based on "theory" its based on facts and numbers which are proven to work.

like giff said, just because you beat down some pubs with shitty gear doesnt mean your build is the best. anyone can do that with half a brain.

littleprincess - sorry my bad i didnt know beating a whole 3 ppl whom i dont even know makes everything this random says a fact. sorry my bad. grief? read my guide i clearly list grief ba as the main weapon.

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Quote (Endurack @ Tue, Jun 27 2006, 06:42am)
I got an idea, stop your forum shit talking cuz I am sure your all garbage and message me in game. My account names are listed and I will gladly own you like no tomarrow. Here it is again if you need it:

*Endurack
*Domion[CR]

I have yet to meet a good player from this forum. All of you talk shit and say hey this number is higher so it means its better, wrong. So many things factor in to heavy damage it isnt even funny. Criticals (with 7,012 WW thats 1 hit KO), Deadlys, max Damage hits and Crushings trigger sometimes as well. You guys know nothing. Grief is not the best weapon around morons. Manakind used it vs me, and i raped him with more then half health remaining. Majority of casters have minimal Damage Reduction. Heavy Damage destroys them. As I stated, every one I duel states how they have never seen a Barbarian hit them so hard. Obviously I can kill a caster better then a grief barb since everyone uses it. Message me and stop hiding behind your computer. Mainakind talked his shit and he got owned. As I said earlier,

NEXT PLEASE.



LOL

endurack ur soo srsly bad...

r u a fuking noob kid?

u have 2 much flaw in ur comment

u say barb doesnt need fcr.. LOL

sure go ahead and take 2-3 sec tele while the casters w/ higher iq tele constantly, any necro can ez ur barb 5-0 if u dont have a decent fcr

u say ebotdz does more dmg than grief??
wow kid, u cant get any dumber than this...i dont think i have 2 say anything...

u say steelrends > drac? Nigga plz
i dont no how much base stren u add and how much u sucked, 60% or 80% ed

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Hel'd Widowmaker
Lol, I suppose you want to do some Z vs. Z? This item will help you vs. noobs only and you wont even need it vs. them. Any good Mage, V/T Judicator Type I and II. Avenger Prismadin, Liberator, Tesladin etc. will capitalize on you and you will have limited ttime to switch.


wow zvz? LOL who said 2 use widow against z? Zzz wut a dumbass
and who would actually use widow constantly against all the characters above?
WIDOW SHOULD ONLY BE USED RARELY AND ONLY IF THEY PLAY DEFENSIVE
god, get ur point straight dumbass

wow, just WOW
obviously u have only dueled in pub games, man try some priv 4 a change and get ur ass spanked asap





i dont think i need 2 stat the rest since all ur comments lack in common knowledge

ur just random trash and i never heard of ur acc in life

if u want 2 get ur ass whopped i can do that

either pm me or /w *guiltygearxt

i will show u y ur v/t and barb = publix trash

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BerBer Coa
Umm, your a BvC why do you need Damage Reduction? Oh thats right, you don't. Arreats has 30 Resistances, 30% FHR and many more usefull stats compared to a CoA.


so u dont need dr against barbs right?
and coa doesnt give 30% fhr right?

omg, ima have 2 go slit

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Jun 27 2006 08:52am
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BerBer Coa
Umm, your a BvC why do you need Damage Reduction? Oh thats right, you don't. Arreats has 30 Resistances, 30% FHR and many more usefull stats compared to a CoA.


so u dont need dr against barbs right?
and coa doesnt give 30% fhr right?

omg, ima have 2 go slit


and 30 resist too.
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BerBer Coa
Umm, your a BvC why do you need Damage Reduction? Oh thats right, you don't. Arreats has 30 Resistances, 30% FHR and many more usefull stats compared to a CoA.


so u dont need dr against barbs right?
and coa doesnt give 30% fhr right?

omg, ima have 2 go slit


and 30 resist too.


shhh luis, not every1s e-rich as u

i live w/ 20 resist T_______________T
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Quote (Endurack @ Mon, Jun 26 2006, 01:15am)
Alright here it is, firsto ff everyone on East is minced-meat compared to the PvP competition on West. Some of these critiques are opinion based so it really goes by your preference and skill level. But here it is:

Why This Barbaian Guide Sucks As Much As Blobs:

Luis' BvC Guide (adaptation of Blob's guide)
Blobs sucked, so this build sucks.

20 leap (for team duels; if you plan to never team duel only put in 14-16 here then rest into shout)
If you need this to kill a sorceress or caster you need to uninstall Diablo right now and sit in a corner and give a long, hard thought about why your a failure. First off landing a Tele and playing defensivly vs. good casters will out do you leaping any day. If a caster has the right frame of FHR this will not effect them anywhere near the price of 20 Skill Points Invested.

STR: 46
DEX: 57
VIT: rest
ENG: 10
These stats are good for a pure BvC I suppose. But right now I have the ability on my barbarian to reach Max Blocking with a shield and if I used the 3/20/20's like this build, I would still have 6,781 Life. IMO 10/70+/40+ Are Superior for Damage and Attack Rating. You really do not need more then 6.2K Health on a barbarian. This guy claims he has 10.6k Defner, I can reach 22K+ On my barbarian so I can duel Melee characters very effectivly. Once again my design is more versitle.

PRIMARY ITAMS:

BerBer Coa
Umm, your a BvC why do you need Damage Reduction? Oh thats right, you don't. Arreats has 30 Resistances, 30% FHR and many more usefull stats compared to a CoA.

Highlord Wrath
This can be useful sometimes, but I still have yet to use my Highlords over my Angelics. Unless your using a 95% Cap Deadly Strike Build, it really isnt worth it.

Arachnid Mesh
You have to be joking me? You Need FCR on a barbarian? LMFAO. FCR increases the amount of time you can cast Teleportations over a period of time. That does nothing for a Barbarian because you should Teleport Once maybe twice and land a hit when your good. Dungoes Supplies DR (If you really want it) but mroe so the important stats, 40 Vitality and 10% FHR.

Dracul Gloves (10% leech and 15 strenght necesary)
Garbage, Right now my Barbarian can KO nearly every Sorceress I have fought. This really will only help you probally vs. Paladins if you want to rely on Open WOunds. Otherwise, use Steelrends 20 Str 60 ED. Each point of Strength = 1% ED on a Barbarian. These gloves can produce an additional 530+ Maximum Damage for your Barbaian. You don't have to hit and run if you can KO a target. Plus Life Tap is BM and it doesnt even trigger with WW.

Grief Zerk Axe
This can be viable sometimes I suppose, but once again a eBotD can produce more damage then this. Right now my barbarian can reach a maximum output of 8,487 PURE PHYSICAL Damage (Mosto f the time I use a 7,012 Damage setup) using eBotD and Beast. I have yet to find a Barbarian do more then my Pure Damage thats not Barb vs. Barb. Everytime I fight a good caster, they always comment on how much damage I do and how hard and fast they die.

Hel'd Widowmaker
Lol, I suppose you want to do some Z vs. Z? This item will help you vs. noobs only and you wont even need it vs. them. Any good Mage, V/T Judicator Type I and II. Avenger Prismadin, Liberator, Tesladin etc. will capitalize on you and you will have limited ttime to switch. It will result in you losing more health then it is worth. True, you might land a Open Wounds hit, but once again any GOOD Caster will capitalize on you when you switch and the game can, and will lag on Secondary Weapon switch leaving you at high risk.

Demon Limb
LMFAo nice Bm, learn to get AR.

HOTKEYS:

Left click: berserk
Rightt click: WW, TELE, LEAP, UNSUMMON, BC, BO, SHOUT,
i use: f1-ww f2-tele f3-leap f4-unsummon
you dont really need to use asdf... on a barb

Besker? Left Click? LMFAO ROFL OMG IM CRYING. Check this out, learn how to short WW, and Tele WW instantly. Right click Tele left click WW and use shift to move triangular for WWs, saves you time and lag of switching keys. Two most viable spells ready at all times. You Tele and keep shift down and click to one of the sides of your target and guess what, they cant react fast enough and you kill them. True, sometimes this will put you in a slight bit of animation lag, just make sure you tele short so your not in it long. I cant possibly recall the last time I had Tele on Right Click...must be at least 3 years.

ALWAYS wait 8 seconds between attacks to let OW run its duration; unless you see a good opportunity to attack.
Ummm.. 1-2 WW's your caster, other then Paladins, should be dead. Paladins can take 3-5 WW's depending on your Pure Damage.

SECTION 1. PUB GAME (thanks blobs ^__________^ )

USE PRIMARY GEAR ALL THE TIME. KILL, NK, STEAL GOLD, AND THEN SAY "CRY". THIS WORKS WONDERS ON THEIR MORALE AND CAUSES THEM TO PLAY BADLY AND / OR BRING MORE DUELERS WHICH ARE CARRYING MORE GOLD. CARRY 1/4 HEALTH POTS AND 3/4 MANA POTS. USE THE PRIMARY GEAR CAUSE U CANT BE KILLED EASILY BY ANYTHING WHEN USING IT, EVEN THOUGH YOUR DAMAGE SUCKS. POT CONSTANTLY SINCE THEY ARE DOING IT TOO, AND IF YOU KILL MORE, THATS MORE GOLD FOR MORE POTS.
(im usually not this mean T________________T )

Your joking, OMG please tell me your joking? Nice job learning to be "Public" and lowering yourself to the biggest noob society around. Hurt your name more. Learn to duel so when you join games people are like "OMG ITS HIM HES SO GOOOD" not "LMFAO DID YOU GO GET MROE POTS AND MERC AND STUFF?"

Switch in gores and 2x fcr rings. Start about 2-3 screens away, make sure you know where they are before the duel starts (before you say go, look where they are on the map then go about 3 screens away). Bowazons are depending that you tele right into their GA/IGA lines so you will move 90 degrees to either side while staying 3-5 screens (you dont want to appear on their map). This will leave the bowazon to guess where to fire each duel (switch ur position every duel then sometimes dont when they expect u to move position). Once the duel starts, do full screen tele's across the map until you land right ontop of them, ww till dead. If you miss or they get a lucky dodge/block then chase them quickly via namelocking (one of the only duels you want to tele namelock). Repeat until dead. If they try to use lf, just make sure to triangle ww them.
You should get them on the first tele ww if you do it right, but some zons may escape, in which case it just means you have to telestomp them till they die and triangle them if they try to tank with lf.

Your fighting noob Amazons abviously. My Hybrid zon can deal 5K Jab and if your a no block Barbraian (Which this build is) your gonna die in 2 Jabs. Then, as you said zons will also try to Run away and land Lightning Bolts (Not Lightning Furys noob) at you. They will also "1 shot switch you" which means hit W take a Shot and then go back to block and run. If the zon is oldschool they know to run in back and forth patters and zig zag so when a barb teles your in the wrong direction of them. Letting a zon "one shot hit you" Tactic will get you killed in less then 6 shots with the GMB Faith. My Amazon deals 6,982 damage at 74% Critical... your dead.

OMG your tactics get worse I am tired of typing. Some of these tips on dueling are good, but alot of them are garbage. Your sorc tactics make me laugh. I can kill a bmana sorc using full DR and mana pots in 5 WW's and I CAN TANK THEM.

So theres your evaluation.

Oh by the way, you fail Noob School 101 with a big, fat F. The next semester starts soon so please go to eBay and look for your chance to sign up.


retard

got a barb on East NL? I'll rape you with 10 different chars
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seriously, only thing he got right is the switching wep lag thats it

rest r all common newb knowledge

i mean cmon

have fun adding mass stren 4 rends
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Jun 27 2006 12:31pm
i'll start my post by first saying east has much better duelers then west, want proof of that? look at any of xiii- or SS or ex-qq/ss members. go look at martin duel or nick or jordan or pat. then shut the fuck up west trash

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If you need this to kill a sorceress or caster you need to uninstall Diablo right now and sit in a corner and give a long, hard thought about why your a failure. First off landing a Tele and playing defensivly vs. good casters will out do you leaping any day. If a caster has the right frame of FHR this will not effect them anywhere near the price of 20 Skill Points Invested.


*you’re*, *defensively* as you said to luis, learn to spell. leap has 25 yard stun, whether he needs it or not to kill a caster it still helps. the fact is a GOOD necro beats a barb regardless, as does a good sorc. you must not have any of them on west.
and the fact is, yes they can use fhr to get out of it. but they HAVE to get out of it. meaning they won't come near you-idiot


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Umm, your a BvC why do you need Damage Reduction? Oh thats right, you don't. Arreats has 30 Resistances, 30% FHR and many more usefull stats compared to a CoA.

*you’re, again learn to spell.
druid, paladin, amazon, barb, wwsin, i guess you didn't no there was more then sorc's and necros.most good barbs team duel, taking double damage and having 25 yard stun is very helpful.
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This can be useful sometimes, but I still have yet to use my Highlords over my Angelics. Unless your using a 95% Cap Deadly Strike Build, it really isnt worth it.

deadly strike doesn't stack, DS doesn't work unless you have primary fire damage. highlords is easily the best barb ammy, angelics is for faggots.
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You have to be joking me? You Need FCR on a barbarian? LMFAO. FCR increases the amount of time you can cast Teleportations over a period of time. That does nothing for a Barbarian because you should Teleport Once maybe twice and land a hit when your good. Dungoes Supplies DR (If you really want it) but mroe so the important stats, 40 Vitality and 10% FHR.
*mroe, dam you and you insult luis’s typing? sorry the people we duel move. go chase cutest on an orber and say to his face you don't need leap or fcr. i can already tell your barb is shitty. GOOD necros/GOOD sorc's won't get hit much vs 40/65 fcr barbs, the point is we TELE TELE WW and land ww/zerk much quicker/better then you. 0 fcr isn't viable vs good necros.
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This can be viable sometimes I suppose, but once again a eBotD can produce more damage then this. Right now my barbarian can reach a maximum output of 8,487 PURE PHYSICAL Damage (Mosto f the time I use a 7,012 Damage setup) using eBotD and Beast. I have yet to find a Barbarian do more then my Pure Damage thats not Barb vs. Barb. Everytime I fight a good caster, they always comment on how much damage I do and how hard and fast they die.
every time is 2 words not one. the only advantage BOTD has over grief, is on average it hits 3 times instead of 2 during a ww. grief is much better, in so many ways. grief does much more damage, everyone knows that

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Dracul Gloves (10% leech and 15 strenght necesary)
Garbage, Right now my Barbarian can KO nearly every Sorceress I have fought. This really will only help you probally vs. Paladins if you want to rely on Open WOunds. Otherwise, use Steelrends 20 Str 60 ED. Each point of Strength = 1% ED on a Barbarian. These gloves can produce an additional 530+ Maximum Damage for your Barbaian. You don't have to hit and run if you can KO a target. Plus Life Tap is BM and it doesnt even trigger with WW.

*probably. 2.7k life, 5k mana, max block, max DR, 89% es, 12k blizz, -260% resist, what the fuck you gona do bitch. STOP DUELING PUBS LOL
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Lol, I suppose you want to do some Z vs. Z? This item will help you vs. noobs only and you wont even need it vs. them. Any good Mage, V/T Judicator Type I and II. Avenger Prismadin, Liberator, Tesladin etc. will capitalize on you and you will have limited ttime to switch. It will result in you losing more health then it is worth. True, you might land a Open Wounds hit, but once again any GOOD Caster will capitalize on you when you switch and the game can, and will lag on Secondary Weapon switch leaving you at high risk.

i've used leap, and bow, and throw, almost everything possible fucking up paladins. and they all try to "capitalize" vs me, and in .0002 seconds i ww them. get some reflexs? you obviously don't get how people use this bow in duel, they use it FAR away to land hits, the point is necros bh pallys and whatever else do get more offensive, and they are much easier to hit. when they "capitalize" is what you're looking for.
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Besker? Left Click? LMFAO ROFL OMG IM CRYING. Check this out, learn how to short WW, and Tele WW instantly. Right click Tele left click WW and use shift to move triangular for WWs, saves you time and lag of switching keys. Two most viable spells ready at all times. You Tele and keep shift down and click to one of the sides of your target and guess what, they cant react fast enough and you kill them. True, sometimes this will put you in a slight bit of animation lag, just make sure you tele short so your not in it long. I cant possibly recall the last time I had Tele on Right Click...must be at least 3 years.

using skills on left or right make no difference except for namelocking(switching keys while holding a lock), i've always used tele right click ww/rightclick zerk, it takes no additional time seeing as you can switch before teleport is over. learn to namelock/spell
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LMFAo nice Bm, learn to get AR.

did he say he used it in gm?



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