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Jul 3 2006 09:46am
Quote (luis19 @ Mon, Jul 3 2006, 02:51pm)
im not either im pointing out the obvious.
i had a welfare legit mana fber with 1.5k life and 2.6k mana. i raped just about every bvc on east who claimed to be good. does that mean fb>barb? hell no. im not even that good with an fber.
i let someone who is 10x better than me on fbers use it vs my barb and i won by a staggering amount with no sorb/max resist (some barbs used hotspurs and still lost).

it simply means that the majority of duelers have no idea how to use their char.

unfortunatly i have sold half my acct on dbay and most of my barb, eitherway i dont play ladder.


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Jul 3 2006 11:31am
wow.. awesome guide.. can't wait till ladder switches over, may make this guide :}
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What is a good max block setup vs all?

like a game with a ele dmg char, druid, bvc?

What gear would you use? dont include valk, duped boots or bonemaster =\

Halp?


YEah


2/20/20/str/other mod'd circ
Ber'd SS
Trangs
Treks
Nice ammy (2nec/15+ FCR)
Hoto/wizzy (depending on your ammy/circ)
Arach
1x FCR Ring
1x BK/SoJ

And come up with 46 FHR in charms. (4x FHR GC's, 8x SC's, w/e combo you like is fine)

I personally use a Ber'd SS 100% of the time, for the exception of NvN.



And what Luis is saying is absolutly correct, and in all honesty, I did have a ladder nec, for about a week or two then killed him. In my honest opinion, ladder dueling just isn't very hard. Truth be told, and good BvC can go 1 on 1 and come up even vs a MAX BLOCK nec. Non max block and your fucked. People like Luis, Donny, Adrian (some of the better BvC's on ESCNL) and I myself will laugh at non block necs while on a BvC.

Soma, orbers are by far one of the harder chars to duel against. Maybe you've dueled the kids who run around casting 1 orb randomly hoping it will hit. And yes, they are EXTREMELY easy to kill. A good orber will easily out tank you, being as I may not be one of the more known figures on ESCNL, I have dueled some of the best on the realm. I don't give out strats for easy "randoms". This is meant to actually help you kill someone good. Not some run of the mill kid who has no idea how to play the character they've chosen. In all honesty, a good BvC will give you a run for your money whether you have max block or not. Yes, you can usually out-tank most of them. Any smart barb will immediatly be on top of you WW'ing in short whirls around you to keep you FBR/FHR locked. Now with that said, before you decide to come post some random BS about how you don't think these strats work well, I'll be glad to set you up some duels with some of the best out there. You'll see what I mean by just plain "randoms" and kids who know how to use their character.

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Quote (luis19 @ Mon, Jul 3 2006, 02:51pm)
im not either im pointing out the obvious.
i had a welfare legit mana fber with 1.5k life and 2.6k mana. i raped just about every bvc on east who claimed to be good. does that mean fb>barb? hell no. im not even that good with an fber.
i let someone who is 10x better than me on fbers use it vs my barb and i won by a staggering amount with no sorb/max resist (some barbs used hotspurs and still lost).

it simply means that the majority of duelers have no idea how to use their char.

unfortunatly i have sold half my acct on dbay and most of my barb, eitherway i dont play ladder.


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Yes, yes, FriggenGenocide is good as well. Although every duel has turned out 5-0 or 5-1, it has always been very close duels. (I manage to slip out last second and get that last hit in tongue.gif)

Ok people, I'm going to be 100% honest, and very blunt here. 99% of the duelers you meet, suck balls. Plain and simple. I have seen kids with gear I would only imagine having, but they were terrible duelers with it. When I first had my nec, it used 10x plain GC's, an anni, it hit the 75 FCR BP, it had 40 FHR. (This was back in 1.10) Yet, I took the time to learn how to use a nec and duel with it. Sadly enough, I killed quite a few people with a pure welfare nec. You can have the worst gear in the game, and still kill kids. It's that simple.

To all of you who gave a compliment (too many to list, sorry sad.gif) Thank you.

Btw, Roses, do I know you by chance? blink.gif

This post was edited by PIB-Apoc on Jul 3 2006 01:52pm
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Jul 3 2006 03:46pm
Using the hoto/wizzy depends on what?

how much res you get?
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Jul 3 2006 03:48pm
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Using the hoto/wizzy depends on what?

how much res you get?


Yes. I suggest using hoto either way, and making up the res in charms. But if your desperate, you can use a wizzy.
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Jul 3 2006 04:00pm
perf spirit/god circlet works too if u dont like .8 valk like me
i still have max res in hell
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pib lets play together sometime my nec is stacked w/ pretty much all he needs except one of my spirit monarchs disapeared i think i accidently dropped it or sumthin but ne ways thats not a big deal at all i have another one but i need alot of help w/ dueling so shoot me a pm his name is zebra maybe u have seen him around
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Jul 3 2006 04:50pm
Is htere any possiblility to use a homun instead of a ss?

or is the Dr that ss gives neccessary

Because this is what i kinda have in mind:
2nec/20fcr/15dex/11res circlet/20fhr(shael) circlet
Storm Circlet
Enigma
Hoto
Homun(what to socket? ber?)
Soj
Fcr ring (with light res)
arach
Trangs
Treks

I will have max res with that setup, 125fcr but only 8dr(16 if i ber the homun)

I also get about 300ish more damage with this setup

or should i just stick with ss for the dr?

and should i get max block with homun only? or ss as well or not use ss at all and save the stat pts and put them into vita instead?

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Jul 3 2006 05:06pm
Quote (blade85 @ Mon, Jul 3 2006, 05:50pm)
Is htere any possiblility to use a homun instead of a ss?

or is the Dr that ss gives neccessary

Because this is what i kinda have in mind:
2nec/20fcr/15dex/11res circlet/20fhr(shael) circlet
Storm Circlet
Enigma
Hoto
Homun(what to socket? ber?)
Soj
Fcr ring (with light res)
arach
Trangs
Treks

I will have max res with that setup, 125fcr but only 8dr(16 if i ber the homun)

I also get about 300ish more damage with this setup

or should i just stick with ss for the dr?

and should i get max block with homun only? or ss as well or not use ss at all and save the stat pts and put them into vita instead?


If your gonna go the homunc route, just max block with homunc. Throw on the SS vs windys. I prefer having 50% dr. You notice the difference by alot. Any build works just fine. They all have their pros and cons. I myself have rebuilt my nec quite a few times. I personally like the setup I have now.

dkmonk, when east is back up. I'll be sure to do that. wink.gif
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Jul 3 2006 05:11pm
Ok tyvm

You have been a great help ohmy.gif

Ill post here if i have anymore questions

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