i recomend use of off hand weapons for some chars:

wizzy for stack
doom for bming amazons funny to see slow dodge of amazon while you whack at 4 fpa with gris

should i use a grief zerker or an etheral botd zerker for pvp?

why?

ebotd zerker for the speed as the grief would probably be a tad too slow, look at the guide in my sig for pure pvp guides with a wolfbarb, the best weapon to use for pvp is probably eth tomb reaver

has anyone considered a Jmob with 4 shaels for vs melee? That way you can do mb and block at a decent rate right?... I could be wrong..
Also is nobody gonna even try using Beast offhand for ed/ar/ias with grief main..? I think that + some nice ias gloves would even make using a Ebotdz mainhand viable.. Maybe lava gout or some crafted ias gloves.. or LoH... =\

also forgot to add this till now.. Fort weapon for secondary would be nice against ww barbs
considering the 200%extra def and +life idk if chilling armor would help at all but its there too.
fort wep seems like a decent all around addition too considering res/extra def/+life/50ar
(not alot of ar but if you have large +%ar it adds a good amount) Idk.. Just some tryin to add to the pot..

4 shaels is a decent idea but it would only be 1 frame quicker than a shaeled ss but without all the extra mods, so i'm not sure it would be worth it

ias that isn't on the weapon doesn't do anything (well it can give like 2% or something)



yeh, those seem like good ideas but you're probably better off with a good two handed weapon which will also usually get you more range, the best off hand weapons (but more for stashed use) were mentioned above (see post 101)

good guide

Is Beast Zerk a good weapon of choice for pvp or ebotdz mainly pwns? Thx for your input in advanced...

Why Whirldwind in the PvP vs All section?
Also is it normal I only have 60~ mana ? That mean 2x WW = oom

grief pb is the best for damage, however if you need more range then you should go with ebotdz rather than beastz



if you're referring to my other guide, i put whirlwind in so that you can kill smiters, whirlwind also allows you to use grief so you can have a chance agianst both casters and melee characters

however the other pvp build in my guide is what i would personally go for (tomb reaver), but don't expect to kill any melee characters

no, 60 mana is not normal with a good bo and anni + torch, if you need more mana then you can shove a mana rune in some sockets, and/or maybe change the gear around a little bit e.g. rings and get a few mana charms. whirlwind wasn't supposed to be used very often with the build though, it's there just so that it gives you the possibilty to take on every character and to catch people offguard, otherwise it wouldn't be much of a wolf ;p

This post was edited by NoWhere on Jun 23 2009 01:41pm