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Jun 25 2008 06:20pm
Ahahaahahah trash guide ROFL.

smite/smite variants There's really nothing to it, the only challenge I've ever had is with smiters who mod (auto telly/telly stomp), or when I try to tank a smiter. Laff. After one or two duels with the same opponent, I get a feel for their strategy/ability and can then more easily defeat an opponent without having to be defensive at all. Anyways, if you're just starting off, telly in one direction, a smiter will follow but you telly faster than he charges so get to the end of your "telly-line" or w/e, then fire of some shots, then teleport in the opposite direction, rinse, repeat. Shouldn't take long at all.


Any half decent 4k hp 2k smite dmg smiter 5-0 this trash.
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Jun 25 2008 06:31pm
Quote (ultima1 @ Wed, Jun 25 2008, 07:20pm)
Ahahaahahah trash guide ROFL.

smite/smite variants There's really nothing to it, the only challenge I've ever had is with smiters who mod (auto telly/telly stomp), or when I try to tank a smiter. Laff. After one or two duels with the same opponent, I get a feel for their strategy/ability and can then more easily defeat an opponent without having to be defensive at all. Anyways, if you're just starting off, telly in one direction, a smiter will follow but you telly faster than he charges so get to the end of your "telly-line" or w/e, then fire of some shots, then teleport in the opposite direction, rinse, repeat. Shouldn't take long at all.


Any half decent 4k hp 2k smite dmg smiter 5-0 this trash.


Trash? Gtfo kid. This zon and my zon and sparts zon > all ur chars. Please get out. And who are u to challenge a bowzon with a smiter? No balls to challenge this zon with anything else? Of course not, cuz all ur char are shit and will get wiped out 10 seconds easily. The odds any bowzon beating a smiter are like seeing a ww barb kill a good hammerdin. Can it happen? Of course but the odds are slim. So please gtfo until u can actually handle dueling a char like this.
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Jun 25 2008 07:49pm
damn and i thought my very first bowzon sucked till i read your guide and gear sellection. This is the worst build ive ever seen period.

No AR, very little physical damage, didnt max guided or critical strike, and wtf is up with the um in wiz?

How do you plan to kill a windie with summons? Ontop that a summing necro.

9frames for tele is way slow, any paly with charge will just charge that to death, i know because i do have a real telebowzon (btw she does 5.4k physical zero psn and has 2k life) thats very very effective vs any build out there on west nl.

with your setup, 2k life wont save you from a quil rat with might aura enchance speed.

BTW teleling around on weapon switch is a very bad idea for any class of chars. Your obviously not dueling elite players with elite gear on their chars. Venom grips, treks, venomward , hell might not even need all that for your low psn damage.

Just lousy is all i can say.
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Jun 25 2008 10:26pm
Quote (funkynoc1 @ Wed, Jun 25 2008, 08:49pm)
damn and i thought my very first bowzon sucked till i read your guide and gear sellection. This is the worst build ive ever seen period.

No AR, very little physical damage, didnt max guided or critical strike, and wtf is up with the um in wiz?

How do you plan to kill a windie with summons? Ontop that a summing necro.

9frames for tele is way slow, any paly with charge will just charge that to death, i know because i do have a real telebowzon (btw she does 5.4k physical zero psn and has 2k life)  thats very very effective vs any build out there on west nl.

with your setup, 2k life wont save you from a quil rat with might aura enchance speed.

BTW teleling around on weapon switch is a very bad idea for any class of chars. Your obviously not dueling elite players with elite gear on their chars.  Venom grips, treks, venomward , hell might not even need all that for your low psn damage.

Just lousy is all i can say.


Ar? guided arrows don't rely on ar, and multi doesn't need to land a hit every time, since 1 arrow from my bow will more than likely do 300-1k+ a persons life over 8 seconds.
arguing for ar on a bowazon has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. I did max ga, and I don't need to max crit to gain 1-2%, and um on switch = 25% chance to take 300 life from a person regardless of dr or whatever else.. Did you even read the guide?

Summons on either windie or non-pure summon necro (a bone necro with summons) don't possess the defense to resist my multis. period. (9k ar multi, more ar than 99% of wwsins, which do just fine.)

The only way you could have those stats is with prebuff, no need argue a point that is plainly obvious. The reason charge annihilates you is because you telly with your bow out, where as I have max block, and can utilize both run/walk and teleport effectively. I'm also doubting that you even have a telezon or have ever hit 9fps cast, since it's plainly obvious/easy to out tele a pally's charge attack. Easily done.

and if a quill rat kills my max block 2.5k life compatible (as i use fr/w charms and room for arrows -i dont like towning often-) then I wonder how you'd fair pvm with no block what so ever.

The underlined part is just to prove how full of shit/stupid you are. If you're going to stack poison, you use death's. Duh. I mean.. venom ward? LMFAO.

As far as elite characters/gear, I've dueled some of the best chars on east, if not most, and can say with confidence that I can beat them, mods or not.

Anyways, I think it's plainly obvious from your boastful out-right lies about character stats/lack of knowledge, that your pinion is close to worthless here.

I think the only reason your post irritated me so much is because you make a lot of unjust statements and back them up with weak arguments/lies/poor intelligence.



Quote (Mattd90 @ Wed, Jun 25 2008, 07:31pm)
Trash? Gtfo kid. This zon and my zon and sparts zon > all ur chars. Please get out. And who are u to challenge a bowzon with a smiter? No balls to challenge this zon with anything else? Of course not, cuz all ur char are shit and will get wiped out 10 seconds easily. The odds any bowzon beating a smiter are like seeing a ww barb kill a good hammerdin. Can it happen? Of course but the odds are slim. So please gtfo until u can actually handle dueling a char like this.


It's not their fault, most people have never had the displeasure of dueling a real amazon.




Quote (ultima1 @ Wed, Jun 25 2008, 07:20pm)
Ahahaahahah trash guide ROFL.

smite/smite variants There's really nothing to it, the only challenge I've ever had is with smiters who mod (auto telly/telly stomp), or when I try to tank a smiter. Laff. After one or two duels with the same opponent, I get a feel for their strategy/ability and can then more easily defeat an opponent without having to be defensive at all. Anyways, if you're just starting off, telly in one direction, a smiter will follow but you telly faster than he charges so get to the end of your "telly-line" or w/e, then fire of some shots, then teleport in the opposite direction, rinse, repeat. Shouldn't take long at all.


Any half decent 4k hp 2k smite dmg smiter 5-0 this trash.


Now I know why so many people post kills on your smiter, because your talk doesn't match your skill or character choice.

+ I believe you duel on europe, all zons on europe are limited by bullshit league rules.

You've never dueled my zon, but if you happen to have a character on east, any character, I'll gladly accept a pm'd challenge.

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Jun 25 2008 10:32pm
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Jun 25 2008 10:33pm
I'd be glad to have friendly duels, if you make a D2PK account. I can play on most of the major builds out there and, perhaps, help out on the dueling strategies a bit?
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Jun 25 2008 10:41pm
Quote (alia @ Wed, Jun 25 2008, 11:33pm)
I'd be glad to have friendly duels, if you make a D2PK account. I can play on most of the major builds out there and, perhaps, help out on the dueling strategies a bit?


I'll pm you about it.

I've definitely considered moving to d2pk, they seem much more duel focused/skill focused than the left-over realms here + a lot of my old school friends still play on there.
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Jun 25 2008 10:57pm
Quote (ultima1 @ Wed, Jun 25 2008, 07:20pm)
Ahahaahahah trash guide ROFL.

smite/smite variants There's really nothing to it, the only challenge I've ever had is with smiters who mod (auto telly/telly stomp), or when I try to tank a smiter. Laff. After one or two duels with the same opponent, I get a feel for their strategy/ability and can then more easily defeat an opponent without having to be defensive at all. Anyways, if you're just starting off, telly in one direction, a smiter will follow but you telly faster than he charges so get to the end of your "telly-line" or w/e, then fire of some shots, then teleport in the opposite direction, rinse, repeat. Shouldn't take long at all.


Any half decent 4k hp 2k smite dmg smiter 5-0 this trash.


Also, in order to be fair, I've critiqued your dueling strategies listed in profile:

"Anti - V/T - Smiter : Yeah I've seen some of these buggers. 95 Light res 20% abs full stack, 50 dr and still // high dmg // high life. Normally they use OW with Widow and play def with it, Widow would do about 200 dmg each arrow, as well* as OW is ~ 100 life per sec. Charge around, Synch with Vigor, Keep close with them, but do not go straigh ahead! If they chase you foh them until they turn around and switch to widow, before they'll be able to switch back you should get a Smite on them, if not 2. They'll flee, chase them with Hf aura and do not lose namelock! Chainlock them and Tele Smite if you can't catch! You should have around 4/5th of hp left while they have 3/5th. You should take 'em out in close combat then. I'd rate this duel 10 // 10."


ARREAT SUMMIT OPEN WOUNDS CALCULATIONS

Open Wounds
This is a chance of making a monster bleed uncontrollably. They lose health while bleeding. Open Wounds Items stack in most cases.

Duration: 200 frames (that is 8 seconds).

The damage per frame seems to be the following (where Clvl is the attackers level, that is the player's level usually):

Clvl=1-15: (9*Clvl+31)/256
Clvl=16-30: (18*Clvl-104)/256
Clvl=31-45: (27*Clvl-374)/256
Clvl=46-60: (36*Clvl-779)/256
Clvl=61-99: (45*Clvl-1319)/256

If you prefer per second, just multiply by 25:

Clvl=1-15: 25*(9*Clvl+31)/256
Clvl=16-30: 25*(18*Clvl-104)/256
Clvl=31-45: 25*(27*Clvl-374)/256
Clvl=46-60: 25*(36*Clvl-779)/256
Clvl=61-99: 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256

Some examples:

Clvl 10: 11.8 per sec over 8 seconds for a total of 94.5 damage. Clvl 30: 42.6 per sec over 8 seconds for a total of 340.6 damage. Clvl 50: 99.7 per sec over 8 seconds for a total of 797.7 damage. Clvl 70: 178.8 per sec over 8 seconds for a total of 1430.5 damage. Clvl 90: 266.7 per sec over 8 seconds for a total of 2133.6 damage.

Also, the damage is divided by 4 for a player target. In addition, for a missile versus a player target one should divide the damage by 8 instead.

Finally, versus bosses and champions (could be just bosses or special bosses) the damage is divided by 2.

It is possible to get up to 100% chance for Open Wounds. Anything above 100% is discarded.





MEANING: Open wounds on a ranged attack will do about 300 direct damage to life over 8 seconds, not 100 life per second. Not even close.





"Barbs .

BvC with WW : Ah, this duel can be very hard if you make a mistake like I've seen many people do. First. Use walk, please. Second. Don't play 100% off. Now, Get clegs on, and get Foh Scep.."


MEANING: clegs don't slow ww attack speed, only his run/walk speed. So he'll still attack @ 4fps (hopefully he has 4fps setup). he'll just move across the screen a bit slower. Doesn't really help much. at all. for smiter.. granted he is slowed, but a decent barb will invest a few points into natural speed, which is calculated similar to an asn's burst of speed. In combo with holy freeze? it's like asking him to "please put on a tap wand/amp wand and take my ass home".







"Charge around with Vigor, dodging the spirits and spears, foh them once in a while too. Try to chainlock them as they pass by, then Tele Smite on top Smite 2-3 times and They'll prolly escape if they have nice fhr, notice you might not catch them on first tele, so tele alot. You should Foh them as they have weak life they should stomp you now so be ready to Smite 'em down. I rate this duel 7 // 10 ."

Now I know the zons on europe suck, but do the necros too? A pure vita necro will be able to hit around the same life as you, a good one will utilize telly walk, a smart one will summon, a wise one won't let you get a chance to tap them, and a mean one will abuse bone prison-which will disrupt your charge and give them a few moments to land ranom spear/spirits.







who are you fooling?

This post was edited by sorowfulhatred on Jun 25 2008 11:02pm
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Jun 25 2008 11:00pm
Actually, Clegs are really good in Smite vs WW, but he's never tried it out before. He's just regurgitating what the better duelers are saying.
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Actually, Clegs are really good in Smite vs WW, but he's never tried it out before. He's just regurgitating what the better duelers are saying.


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