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Apr 22 2008 04:09pm
Quote (m72mc @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 02:07pm)
so then according to your theory 2 points in mindblast is better than 1 ? or as it is rounded down,with a minimum, it makes no difference..?

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uh, it would make a difference. but not a big difference...if you look at my tests, 2 pts mb only allowed it to mindblast once in three minutes of constant 102 fcr teleport. is it worth the point? idk. i do know that, either way, sm mindblasts VERY infrequently, which is why i use warrior on my non-pumped-mb assassins.

EDIT: oh, btw, it would make a difference since the 1 pt minimum applies to the final number...with 1 pt mindblast and say lvl 20 sm, it gets 0 + 10 = 10 mindblast. with 2 pts mindblast, it gets 1 + 10 = 11 mindblast.

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Quote (darcanegel @ Wed, 23 Apr 2008, 00:09)
uh, it would make a difference. but not a big difference...if you look at my tests, 2 pts mb only allowed it to mindblast once in three minutes of constant 102 fcr teleport. is it worth the point? idk. i do know that, either way, sm mindblasts VERY infrequently, which is why i use warrior on my non-pumped-mb assassins.

EDIT: oh, btw, it would make a difference since the 1 pt minimum applies to the final number...with 1 pt mindblast and say lvl 20 sm, it gets 0 + 10 = 10 mindblast.  with 2 pts mindblast, it gets 1 + 10 = 11 mindblast.


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Apr 22 2008 04:14pm
Quote (darcanegel @ Tue, Apr 22 2008, 05:57pm)
nope, max mindblast, 1 into shadow master.

btw, additional testing on sm's skills explains everything.  it's skills are equal to:

1/2 shadow master lvl (rounded down) (hard and soft points)+ 1/2 mindblast (or whatever skill) (rounded down) (only hard points), with a minimum of one.  so it uses skills more if they're a higher level than the other skills (although obviously it has preferences toward some skills).  so soft points make no difference in the level sm has in mindblast, so more soft points won't make it cast it more.  higher level shadow master boosts ALL it's skills, making them closer, %-wise.  the sm that mindblasts the most (theoretically) would be a lvl 1 sm cast by a max mb assassin with no other skills.

anyway so max mindblast, 1 into master.


Arreat Summit disagrees...
http://battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/assassin-shadow.shtml
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The skills a Shadow Master casts have the skill-level equal to half her skill-level +1.


Shadow Warrior's skill levels are based on a combination of Warrior level and Skill level, though, but I can't remember the exact formula.

This post was edited by drt1245 on Apr 22 2008 04:15pm
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Arreat Summit disagrees...
http://battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/assassin-shadow.shtml


the arreat summit is dead wrong in this case, in fact i just emailed them about it. if you need proof that they're wrong, just use hero editor and make a sin w/ 1 pt sm. have it cast sm and watch how long blade shield lasts. then exit, edit the char to have 99 pts in blade shield, and do the same thing. it'll last a LOOOOONG time with 99 pts in bs, and the arreat summit doesn't take the assassin's skill level into account at all with their formula.

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Shadow Warrior's skill levels are based on a combination of Warrior level and Skill level, though, but I can't remember the exact formula.


i heard it's 1/3 sw + 1/2 assassin's slvl, but i'm not sure. didn't bother to test since i'm pretty sure the frequency isn't affected by hard points, just what you have selected.
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