Oi question, what build should i use vs melee ? like ww's and zeals and etc?
i was thinking
Jalas
shael ss
Grief pb or 6x shael pb (not sure)
Fort ofc
rends or bloods (idk here)
gores (not sure)
dungos, since im poor
ravens and hls or 3/100 ammy or maras

wtf you thinking using fort lilneko....and no to the rends also....

This post was edited by demonslayer1000 on Mar 11 2008 06:18pm

why on earth would you use fort/rends
this build is pure fire damage...
this build should be based on enigma anyway, i cant think of a substitute but perhaps a 20/20 amour could work if ur melee only?

and if you going vs melee you will need angelic set

having said that, this char will get raped 90% of time by anything melee in 1v1 (but yes you can obviously kill unsuspecting pub go-ers) so i dont think its a good idea trying to beat them with this build
reasons:
1. even with angelic amu + angelic rings your AR will be around 20k in bear form. nowhere near high enough if you want to go toe to toe with a zealer who will have huge def.
2. your PB is range 2, BVC's BA is range 3. the only way you can attack ww is shift hitting and if you do this against any decent barb who clips... you're pretty much dead. zealers using botd ba also have range advantage vs you
3. in bear form your fhr will be horrible and you will know the implications if you ever duel a zealer. switching to wolf solves this problem but reduces ur attack to 5 frames which is now slower than zeal.
4. if you're opponant has max/high res, not to mention a legit amount of abs, you will do very little damage per hit.

dont get me wrong, i am not trying to put down this build as i love it and its one of most fun chars to play, esp in pub which is infested with cookie cutters but im simply speaking as an experience fire bear-er
id stick to sorc smash hehe

This post was edited by WinterSnow on Mar 11 2008 06:26pm

O_o you should lay it out like this

Jalals ber
ss shael'd or jah
4shael pb with 2x 15ias/100ar jool
Enigma
Bloodfist
IK Boots
Fhr/str/life belt
angelic ring+ammy / raven

[QUOTE=BuLLsEyE-PwNaGe,Tue, Mar 11 2008, 05:30pm]<DIV class=quote1>Quote (LilNeko @ Tue, Mar 11 2008, 04:57pm)</DIV>
<DIV class=quote2><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oi question, what build should i use vs melee ? like ww's and zeals and etc?
i was thinking
Jalas
shael ss
Grief pb or 6x shael pb (not sure)
Fort ofc
rends or bloods (idk here)
gores (not sure)
dungos, since im poor
ravens and hls or 3/100 ammy or maras[/QUOTE]

O_o you should lay it out like this

Jalals ber
ss shael'd or jah
4shael pb with 2x 15ias/100ar jool
Enigma
Bloodfist
IK Boots
Fhr/str/life belt
angelic ring+ammy / raven[/QUOTE]

O_o Sound good!


[QUOTE=WinterSnow,Tue, Mar 11 2008, 05:24pm]why on earth would you use fort/rends
this build is pure fire damage...
this build should be based on enigma anyway, i cant think of a substitute but perhaps a 20/20 amour could work if ur melee only?

and if you going vs melee you will need angelic set

having said that, this char will get raped 90% of time by anything melee in 1v1 (but yes you can obviously kill unsuspecting pub go-ers) so i dont think its a good idea trying to beat them with this build
reasons:
1. even with angelic amu + angelic rings your AR will be around 20k in bear form. nowhere near high enough if you want to go toe to toe with a zealer who will have huge def.
2. your PB is range 2, BVC's BA is range 3. the only way you can attack ww is shift hitting and if you do this against any decent barb who clips... you're pretty much dead. zealers using botd ba also have range advantage vs you
3. in bear form your fhr will be horrible and you will know the implications if you ever duel a zealer. switching to wolf solves this problem but reduces ur attack to 5 frames which is now slower than zeal.
4. if you're opponant has max/high res, not to mention a legit amount of abs, you will do very little damage per hit.

dont get me wrong, i am not trying to put down this build as i love it and its one of most fun chars to play, esp in pub which is infested with cookie cutters but im simply speaking as an experience fire bear-er
id stick to sorc smash hehe[/QUOTE]

Mhm..I'll try that too, I surpose. it's just for fun and all, I know ima get roped, but hey! i like challenges ! It's the fun part about it. o_O Should I max werebear? since it doesn't says it! XD

no... dont max bear ^^
either go the damage rout max fire claw and all synergies. 1 point in lync
or life route max fire claw. max lync. then as much as u can into synergies.

they are just down to personaly preference but i like the life build better.
anyways, follow the guide, it is pretty good

okay ima do that! thanks !

Yeah most people prefer the life build but I've ran into a few people who just wanna get out in the moor and be slapping kids with 20k damage

Thanks for the compliments, I'm really trying to work on the sticky but Mr.Bommel NEVER answers back in my pm's so if anyone wants to see this guide stickied I'd really appreciate if you could pm him supporting my guide

Heres a link to his profile http://forums.d2jsp.org/user.php?i=268814

It took a while for my guide to get stickied, I don't see why yours wouldn't be stickied , after all it's the only Fireclaws guide there

EDIT:spelling

This post was edited by Myrddrall9 on Mar 11 2008 09:01pm

I know but did bommel ever pm you back? Because I've pm'd him like 5 times over my fireclaw bear guide and he never pm's me back

Also I've pmd several times about updating my rabies/fury guide wondering if I just cleaned it up a bunch and added a few things if it could be auto-stickied over my first guide but he hasn't answered back on that either