yeah a targe has terrible block rate, terrible def and terrible smite damage. sacred targe is the highest block rate shield, that's why everyone uses them.

a 1 soc coa is worse than a shako fyi

you aren't using foh for damage, just stunning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMjzi8mZISE

he's hdin, but same concept

you foh and swap to tele during cooldown and by time u land, you can resmite while they are getting out of stun

This post was edited by Haseo on Jan 28 2023 11:21am

You need 2000 foh dmg to stun someone with a tgods

You can listen to them or me, your choice.

My smiters name is aum, come to me when you’re ready.



This post was edited by Nataraja on Jan 28 2023 01:52pm

So is 2000 foh power with it maxed and all synergies maxed?

Meaning I should max foh and 1pt charge

This post was edited by Yeti_dabs on Jan 28 2023 06:30pm

2000 foh is minimum if you want to stun people as previously discussed with these other guys, you must do atleast 1 dmg to stun an opponent.

If only dueling smiters you may be fine with 1 point but if they have a tgods it simply will not stun them.

This post was edited by Nataraja on Jan 28 2023 07:56pm

1. you do realise that there are plenty numbers between 1500 and 2000, right? just because 2000 is the first number in your table showing a positive result, this does not mean that there are no smaller numbers. in fact, 1640dmg will yield 1 actual dmg, you just didn't calculate for that dmg number...

2. Most important: 1 point foh is enough due to the order of which absorb works: healing and dmg are applied in SEPARATE steps, so your calculation of net dmg does not provide the necessary results to answer this question. the foh dmg needed to stun someone with the animation is just 40, which is already met at foh lvl 1

(see here for reference regarding mechanics: https://www.theamazonbasin.com/wiki/index.php?title=Absorb)

Okay 1640 dmg then, ty for your rage and math wizardry, I’ll add it to my notes.

I said 2000 because that’s what most pro fohers run and then go for -res.

This post was edited by Nataraja on Jan 29 2023 06:33am

I would be a V/T all day long in d2r.

But i would use pheonix.
That way one already have great charge damage, great smite damage and good foh with less delay lol.. Should be strong AF.

Builds below have between 20-25 dex to little statted, due to mistakes i did^^ So just stat those extra xD

Anyway:
Regular build, works vs all, may add hots vs fb sorc:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/tu0106cl
75fcr/86fhr/46% dr/cnbf/abs/oak - Swap places of shield while boing and casting holy shield.

Vs hammer and FB sorc mainly, vs light sorc that don't pierce LR:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/tu0106cl
Idea here is maximize charge damage, smite damage, foh damage, keep max ias with berzerker axe, chance to cast LT via dracs and chance to OW via dracs. In stash there are 20/-20 jeweleres of the whale in 45@ base and foh scepter incase u prebo in stash. As well as oak as meatshield. Dno about d2r, but in d2lod it was extreamly effective to jump hammers, but it required correct timing.
75fcr is enought vs hammers. If enemy soso uses any form of chilling/freezing armor etc you should use different setup.

Setup vs necro:
125fcr / 56fhr / stack enought for 7fpa smite vs golem slow. Decent foh damage.

Other setup vs necro:
If you find urself lacking damage, or would love better charge damage u can also go 75fcr with pheonix:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/tu0106cl
Here we basicly added dracul's and pheonix. Ow to work in tandem with foh, chance to LT, awsome charge and smite dmg etc...

There is a lot to mix here, i think i have thought of all...
If u want to like do a slower approuch to be tankier vs other smiters there is one here:
https://maxroll.gg/d2/d2planner/ep0106mc
The idea here is to use ur range adder and damage and ar and just charge the F*** out of enemy smiters.

What part of anything over 5% chance to cast is banned in all ladders, that’s means your Phoenix do you not understand?

This post was edited by Nataraja on Jan 29 2023 10:04am

You mean svs ladder? I mean pub and tvt.