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Feb 5 2023 10:39am
Quote (Loucifer @ Feb 5 2023 06:11pm)
i made one, and playing it with Doom i need to try this with the 30/30 blade maybe its stronger ill test it soon, also using sunder charm with insight merc, or infinity without sunder, all works fine, but i feel it slower than auradin, good thing u can still use Nado with phisical dmg for extra dmg and good on duels.


Why you would not use both, Sunder and Infy ?

Sunder break Cold immunity by setting monsters cold res to 95 and after that Infy will bring it down to 10 ( iirc -85 Res ) and after that your -Cold Res from EQ makes monster Cold res negative which mean a damn lot more dmg dealt.

Or am i wrong some how ?

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Feb 5 2023 10:48am
Quote (Soppamies @ 5 Feb 2023 17:39)
Why you would not use both, Sunder and Infy ?

Sunder break Cold immunity by setting monsters cold res to 95 and after that Infy will bring it down to 10 ( iirc -85 Res ) and after that your -Cold Res from EQ makes monster Cold res negative which mean a damn lot more dmg dealt.

Or am i wrong some how ?


just becouse Conviction and Lower Resist effectiveness will be 1/5 effective even after a Sundering Charm's applied effects.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96546120&f=148

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Feb 5 2023 12:06pm
Quote (Loucifer @ Feb 5 2023 06:48pm)
just becouse Conviction and Lower Resist effectiveness will be 1/5 effective even after a Sundering Charm's applied effects.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96546120&f=148


Ahh okay then, well even the effect will be 1/5 after Sundering, isn’t it still better to have -17 Res from Conv ? Also Infy isn’t a bad Merc weapon either, can have some nice Jab BP with Thresher base and Treachery and Conv also provide -Def which allows your Bear and Merc hit much smoother. Dunno is it better than Repers Merc which is also very good opinion if you also spam Nados.

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Feb 5 2023 12:12pm
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Ahh okay then, well even the effect will be 1/5 after Sundering, isn’t it still better to have -17 Res from Conv ? Also Infy isn’t a bad Merc weapon either, can have some nice Jab BP with Thresher base and Treachery and Conv also provide -Def which allows your Bear and Merc hit much smoother. Dunno is it better than Repers Merc which is also very good opinion if you also spam Nados.


yeah infy its also nice until u wear sunder but i just hate to chunk mana pots as crazy so wearing the insight with the sunder u can clean whole game and no cares about mana just tping on monster mash with the hurricane and spam some nados, if fisical inmunes they will fall with the cold dmg and cold inmunes down with the sunder.
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Feb 5 2023 12:17pm
Quote (Loucifer @ Feb 5 2023 08:12pm)
yeah infy its also nice until u wear sunder but i just hate to chunk mana pots as crazy so wearing the insight with the sunder u can clean whole game and no cares about mana just tping on monster mash with the hurricane and spam some nados, if fisical inmunes they will fall with the cold dmg and cold inmunes down with the sunder.


But how about non immunities ? If monster is not Cold Immune Sunder doesn’t affect to it (?) and with Infy you can bring that monster Cold Res to negative and kill them faster ? Dunno how it matters if you play alone and all ” trash ” mobs will die in second anyway but how about in more fuller game when clear speed matters ?

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But how about non immunities ? If monster is not Cold Immune Sunder doesn’t affect to it (?) and with Infy you can bring that monster Cold Res to negative and kill them faster ? Dunno how it matters if you play alone and all ” trash ” mobs will die in second anyway but how about in more fuller game when clear speed matters ?


yeah if u want to play far than p4 games u need probably infinity for go faster, but in that way it will be not enoguht, happens like auradin, games p4+ isnt much worth until auradin wear conviction -150 all res mobs fall slowly just with aura u need to zeal, then with dudu u have the nados, i think thoose builds are much nice on solo farming or p4 as max, so nice for nintendo switch players.
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Feb 5 2023 12:42pm
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This post was edited by Loucifer on Feb 5 2023 12:43pm
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Feb 5 2023 02:04pm
its viable

on lod i made 1 its cool everything is frozen and die in 1/2 second hell
like a dragondin with teleport but still have a full tornado as backup

i liked it more then a standard nado druid for pvm

btw i have this helm on d2r
https://imgur.com/a/4tSNQct


after reset i will try some setups to see whats better

nw vs my pelt





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Quote (xXHeisenbergXx @ 5 Feb 2023 21:04)
its viable

on lod i made 1 its cool everything is frozen and die in 1/2 second hell
like a dragondin with teleport but still have a full tornado as backup

i liked it more then a standard nado druid for pvm

btw i have this helm on d2r
https://imgur.com/a/4tSNQct


after reset i will try some setups to see whats better

nw vs my pelt


About hurricane helms i think nw is not very good unless we are on a budget. A good pelt 2sox or 20 fcr rare circlet 2sox are better options.
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Feb 5 2023 02:29pm
Quote (cantero @ Feb 5 2023 09:14pm)
About hurricane helms i think nw is not very good unless we are on a budget. A good pelt 2sox or 20 fcr rare circlet 2sox are better options.


I also made a 30-30 sword
And have a doom with -58

On lod the 3030 was the best i remember
But now with the sunder charm, doom will probably beat it overall
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