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Jan 4 2023 01:10pm
Yes, let's ditch like 20% of your total damage. Seems viable...
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Jan 4 2023 07:24pm
Quote (Puddingyo @ Jan 4 2023 11:38am)
Oh my god.....

You guys are saying as if your piercing rate is 0% without razortail. :rofl:

Unless you cow, you rarely are in the situation where you can even pierce through 3 enemies at a time.

You guys all are aware that it's the javelin, not the lightning bolt that triggers another lightning fury, right? :bonk:

I'm happy with the 77% chance for piercing the first monster. 100% pierce ofc is fancy, but people ditch razortail for reasons.

But let's agree to disagree. I won't argue anymore.

Have a great 2023 with your razortails. :thumbsup:



There isn’t any “agree to disagree”. It is fact you are wrong.

It is fact this build is shit
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Jan 5 2023 01:23am
Lol super expensive set up that does worse then cookie cutter builds. No raizor tail? Bro go back to playing neopets scrub

This post was edited by addone on Jan 5 2023 01:23am
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Jan 5 2023 02:47am
What’s wrong with the cookie cutter build?
Griff with 15/15 jewl or 15ias/3mek
Hl ammy
Enigma
Razortail(100%pierce)
Eth up Titan
Silk boots
Raven frost
Rare fcr ring with mana leach high mana/res
Spirit monarch (70% fcr with rest of the gear + 55fhr)
Glove 3/20 for dmg or 2/20 rare or craft with dual stats rest maybe even mana leach
Poor man’s glove loh 20ias 50fire res 350% dmg to demon

Nn to repair jav more pew pew less QQ
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Jan 5 2023 11:47am
Nvm do what you love and hf

This post was edited by Puddingyo on Jan 5 2023 11:52am
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Jan 5 2023 04:24pm
EDIT: You can pretty easily hit 80-85% pierce without Razortail and high enough +skills idk what these guys are talking about~

Bowzon can hit higher even without Razor since P&M is pretty dope (unlike for Java).

I'm not sure I'd ever run Maiden/Phoenix personally, but those 2 slots boil down to personal preference imo.
You have some fucking around to do if you use Titan's/TStroke vs. 6/40s but it usually averages out

This post was edited by Exokek on Jan 5 2023 04:27pm
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Jan 5 2023 04:25pm
Quote (Exokek @ Jan 5 2023 05:24pm)
You can hit 90% pierce without Razortail idk what these guys are talking about


ikr...
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Quote (Puddingyo @ 5 Jan 2023 17:25)
ikr...


I overestimated with the 90%, but 80-85% isn't out of reach.
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Jan 5 2023 04:31pm
Quote (Exokek @ Jan 5 2023 05:27pm)
I overestimated with the 90%, but 80-85% isn't out of reach.


Yes, my setup is 77% and have no problem running p8 games alone. I mean, if pierce rate is that important, then why bother to spend skill points on synergy skills which would increase less than 1% each time? Invest on pierce and be free from razortail. smh...

This post was edited by Puddingyo on Jan 5 2023 04:32pm
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Jan 5 2023 04:42pm
mainstream end game build:

Griffon with 15/15@
Eth titan
5+fcr ammy
enigma
60ias 12maek jmod
arach
2x fcr rings with 6ml each
Java gloves
tri res boots

With might aura merc

95ias/68fcr no swap

Here

ml 15%
maek 12

is widely accepted to be the minimum req for no potion any field.

Need half freeze duration somewhere (ring, gloves, boots)

try arguing that this is a noob setup because it doesn't use Razortail..

This post was edited by Puddingyo on Jan 5 2023 04:43pm
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