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Nov 30 2022 02:13pm
Quote (Newspawn @ Nov 30 2022 07:54pm)
well thanks for the tips guys I’ve been battling with this quite a bit because I want it to be good. I’ve tried some of the suggestions you guys through at me and it seems to all lead back to mana. To high of a cost and no leach makes it not practical. Sucks.. so much potential for a sweet horker build had 300+ MF on Ali baba swap. I’ve decided to let it die and just respected back to melee barb. RIP singer barb.
Again thanks for the feedback


I tried it on D2L as well some time ago, it just does not work for PvM. I have a lot of suboptimal builds which still perform ok, but singer barb simply does not work at all. you don't have mana sustain and you don't do dmg
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Nov 30 2022 03:48pm
With 7mf 16 mana scs, my singer has 1.6k mana. Mana was no issue. Sad to see you change back, but understand it's a very niche build. Pitzerker is more manageable all around in terms of gear and mana issues

Also, this is still one of the most efficient builds of d2, especially in SP with fixed maps. I ran 600+ mf, and even if you skip stone skin champs, it is a tier 1 mfer for uniques in terms of efficiency.

Example: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89361061&f=161

Anyways, not criticism here, just don't want a misconception that singers don't work!
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Nov 30 2022 03:55pm
Quote (Tkamp @ Nov 30 2022 04:48pm)
With 7mf 16 mana scs, my singer has 1.6k mana. Mana was no issue. Sad to see you change back, but understand it's a very niche build. Pitzerker is more manageable all around in terms of gear and mana issues

Also, this is still one of the most efficient builds of d2, especially in SP with fixed maps. I ran 600+ mf, and even if you skip stone skin champs, it is a tier 1 mfer for uniques in terms of efficiency.

Example: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89361061&f=161

Anyways, not criticism here, just don't want a misconception that singers don't work!


I’ll keep that in mind. I’m sure I’ll give it another try at some point tokens aren’t that hard to get. I really did like the class. Couple questions. Did you add to energy? Did you stack as much as possible into war cry or did you limit it to lower mana cost? Is your cast rate @ max break?
Regardless Thx for the info, criticism is what I came here for I’m very open to it
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Nov 30 2022 04:05pm
Quote (Newspawn @ Nov 30 2022 02:55pm)
I’ll keep that in mind. I’m sure I’ll give it another try at some point tokens aren’t that hard to get. I really did like the class. Couple questions. Did you add to energy? Did you stack as much as possible into war cry or did you limit it to lower mana cost? Is your cast rate @ max break?
Regardless Thx for the info, criticism is what I came here for I’m very open to it


Righteous! Full vita, Max wc
105fcr with 2x wizzy and +5fvr +mana +mf craft amu
Shako ist
Isted wizzies
Eni
Chancies
Nagels
Goldwrap
War travs
Torch
Anni
37x 7mf/16-17 mana scs

Inventory was key for me
Insight Merc with your choosing. I chose damage over mf on Merc, just no cold damage cause corpose horkong is king

I think I landed around 4.5k HP and 1.6k mana. I could borderline swap insight for reapers, but that was only cause SP no map change.

Check out ahhabee's grail I shared, he's posted a lot of heat gameplay vids. At the rate you kill champs, you can always full juv if mana burned, but maybe less of an issue. My barb was on legacy
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Nov 30 2022 04:07pm
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Righteous! Full vita, Max wc
105fcr with 2x wizzy and +5fvr +mana +mf craft amu
Shako ist
Isted wizzies
Eni
Chancies
Nagels
Goldwrap
War travs
Torch
Anni
37x 7mf/16-17 mana scs

Inventory was key for me
Insight Merc with your choosing. I chose damage over mf on Merc, just no cold damage cause corpose horkong is king

I think I landed around 4.5k HP and 1.6k mana. I could borderline swap insight for reapers, but that was only cause SP no map change.

Check out ahhabee's grail I shared, he's posted a lot of heat gameplay vids. At the rate you kill champs, you can always full juv if mana burned, but maybe less of an issue. My barb was on legacy


Nice man thanks for the info this is what I needed I’ll screenshot this and give it a shot! Thanks again
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Dec 1 2022 11:20am
Quote (Newspawn @ Nov 30 2022 03:07pm)
Nice man thanks for the info this is what I needed I’ll screenshot this and give it a shot! Thanks again


For sure brother bear, good luck!
For reference, I gave this char a shot because of guides found here: https://www.purediablo.com/forums/threads/guide-build-efficiency-101-%E2%80%93-overview-resource-compilation.166/
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