Having a brain won't help against packs similar to de seis and such. I think i calculated that they deal about 4000 damage with every swing, collectively.

If you follow meta sure. If you follow streamer sure. If you follow build guide sure.

If you understand the game and make your own decisions. you get 8k blizz damage. gain life from fire and lightning. 26k defense and %75 block. 3k+ life (not needed over 2.5k) Physical mobs can't hit you but 1 in 20 attempts. You aren't dying unless horrible disconnect that lasts very long.


I'm a math nerd so it's GG EZ for me. Plus i play poe so this shit EZ.

1 in 20 huh. Well, 1 in 20 times, you will die ^^ Keep rolling the dice .. they're yours to roll.

Oh ok. Diablo Wikki must be wrong.

Diablo wikki

https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_De_Seis
https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Block
https://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Defense
https://diablo.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_Reduction

You still think we die from de sis?

Your math wrong bud. Stick to softcore.

Him AND the pack. If you're amp'd.

So now I'm amp'd and somehow in the middle of this whole pack. Fine.

still don't die

Block + hit recovery. But okay, may be very tanky, but can't play 100% recklessly or you will die sooner or later.

So i don't need to stick to softcore, i've played hc 5 years, many different characters, many high levels, very few deaths. I don't play to be #1, but to have fun. And i don't buy fg to get the best gear, i don't follow cockie cutter builds to brag afterwards. I like a challenge. Try doing a bowa from scratch one season. Also telling newbs what to look out for, not just tell them to buy fg, buy rush+level job and gear and you'll survive. That's lousy advice.

This post was edited by Taurean on Nov 1 2022 09:33am

Except for... they barely ever hit - and when they do, they tickle. Hell, by the time I'd be reduced to 50% hp my merc/minions would kill them all.

Huge def, max block, fbr, dmg reduced in case a hit gets through, bone armor/cyclone armor (I think that was the name, i don't play druid)...and with certain builds (I'm not saying it's the case with every build), you have 0 reasons to be between them. Take a necro for example, why would a necro be between them to begin with?



No class is supposed to teleport into the deseis pack, straight in the middle and just press the power button on the PC because things will be fine.

That wouldn't be tanky (although my hammerdin survived such a scenario - it wasn't the power button, just my old internet connection going offline), that would be retarded. But that kind of event is just REALLY unlucky and extremely rare.

Fact is I reached level 99 (HC, ofc) multiple times back in the day, when TZ were not a thing, so that implied fuck knows how many CS runs - MANY (and I had to kill deseis on every one of them, of course, in order to spawn Diablo). So what are we talking about here? Like 1/100,000 chance to die? Yeah, that can happen, but...it's 1/100,000 and I said TANKY, not INVINCIBLE.

This post was edited by mananvar on Nov 2 2022 09:33pm

Sorc can't tank but she can dance
If learn to dance u will hit 99.
Tele at corners "with open screen" if u left monsters in urs back u are dead.
First of all urs dmg is static <use it non stop on every monster wich u wanna kill> second is -light res and on last place is the screen dmg around 25k is enough.
Setup for leaders wich are able to self tele and do chaos till 99:
Griffon with -25res
Mara
Guardian angel soc -5/5
Storm soc -5/5
Aldurs
Mages
Two stats fcr rings with mass lr/fr
Arach
Hoto
I prefer using suicide branch and wisp/dwarf ring
If u got boer u can use beast and phoenix on swap so urs merc can quickly clear light im stone skin seis
Merc
infy gt or t
Eth treachery
Andy soc 15ias/fr

Light skillers with fhr u have to reach 62fhr
Stuck urs res from small charms note max them even with conv.

If u don't use static sorc isn't urs char


Ofc there is option 2
As the guy above
Chill and leech till 99 left someone else to risk.


At this pach for 99 it's better to go with blizzard sorc with df and GA setup <105fcr/62fhr> and lawbringer a5 merc. Again urs dmg is static!!!!!

This post was edited by al1as on Nov 11 2022 12:53pm