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Oct 28 2022 01:06pm
Quote (Itsjustpain2 @ 28 Oct 2022 18:50)
So it is the lowest skill floor not the highest


Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ 28 Oct 2022 18:51)
wouldn't that be highest skill floor?

floor being the absolute worst player on any particular build, still doing well, cuz its braindead good


so if the floor is HIGH that means even bad players do well on it


Actually looked into it and there's no consensus on what the definition of a skill floor actually is. There's people saying a high skill floor means you automatically stand closer to the top (so the definition I used; you can suck and still do well), there's people saying a high skill floor means high barrier to entry (so the exact opposite).
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Quote (Itsjustpain2 @ Oct 28 2022 11:58am)
: A skill floor is the minimum level of ability required to be effective with a hero. A skill ceiling is the level of skill required to use a hero to their maximum potential.


right..

so my point is the skill floor and ceiling is higher on a wind druid (as opposed to a necro) because it can be used effectively by someone who isn't that skillful

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Actually looked into it and there's no consensus on what the definition of a skill floor actually is. There's people saying a high skill floor means you automatically stand closer to the top (so the definition I used; you can suck and still do well), there's people saying a high skill floor means high barrier to entry (so the exact opposite).


yeah


if someone is new to fpking I would pretty much suggest druid every time

This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Oct 28 2022 01:12pm
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Oct 28 2022 01:11pm
Seen ppl use it defderently.
Dunno what the word 'skill' means in skill floor in your example. No skill is user at all.
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Oct 28 2022 01:17pm
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Seen ppl use it defderently.
Dunno what the word 'skill' means in skill floor in your example. No skill is user at all.


Basically I think like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ4BAG520LY
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Oct 28 2022 01:23pm
Quote (Morbid-EW @ Oct 28 2022 09:17pm)


I know that VID. He doesnt talk about skill do much but over effectiveness.

Call your exemple an effectiveness floor/ceiling. Inherent abilities or builds say nothing about skills
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Oct 28 2022 01:27pm
Quote (Itsjustpain2 @ 28 Oct 2022 19:23)
I know that VID. He doesnt talk about skill do much but over effectiveness.

Call your exemple an effectiveness floor/ceiling. Inherent abilities or builds say nothing about skills


He says exactly what I mean. "the easier a hero is to pick up and play, the higher the skill floor. A floor limits how far down you can go."
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Oct 28 2022 01:35pm
I know what he says and what you adapt

Im saying the consensus is that he is wrong.

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Oct 30 2022 05:29am
ye low skillfloor = noskill brainded can do good with class cuz its OP
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Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Oct 29 2022 03:51am)
Ghosf, and in general any sin type, is no where near a top class anymore with all the changes to wsg and fhr. Not to mention the nerfing of WW that has primarily affected sins as well


Thank god. Not so much for wsg but the fact brain-dead timmies could just keep you stun locked while you slowly die to their traps. Now you require hands to play a sin
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