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Oct 5 2022 05:57pm
Nah not worth it at all
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Oct 5 2022 10:11pm
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Oct 5 2022 10:20pm)
how are you getting 156 str without stat points? ber shako ber zak nigma dungo=49% dr, max block, more life than fcr set up, more damage than fcr set up


Just get a fcr ring/amulet w/ str on it, or -req jewel stormshield
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ Oct 5 2022 11:56pm)
Cold res is good vs hurricane

Zons deal poison and lightning damage.


With hoto/ss/trangs you would be well over the cr cap, so I don't think there is a problem there

Hm, I didn't theorycraft that far on this. Just a few commonsensical details to look at. But tribids ARE ez to deal with. Tbh just use grief pb. But it's possible if I want to play as a hdin also. Probably something like this:

hoto or res/dex wizzy
ss
griffons
trangs
tg
dancer
fcr/str/dex/res rings

Honestly, I wasn't prescribing something to handle all situations, lol. I was just saying it was a simple way for pure vita dins to handle some MUs. Most of those are items found in a lot of shared stashes anyway, other than the circlet, which most people probably sell for cheap, so it is probably not even a fg heavy option. I know some people who build hdins only to hvh/hvn, and admittedly I usually use a coa/verdungos myself because I pub sometimes, but I was just theorycrafting a simpler way to get maxed mb/dr in case I decided to go the full vita route.

Quote (addone @ Oct 5 2022 12:27pm)
I guess it's nice to theorycraft until you get owned. But, but, but my ss is numba 1 build herp derp.

What are you gaining? Really? Did you calculate all the break points? Also waterwalks > shadow dancers

You will have severe resist problems without spirit and coa ontop not to mention a ring slot like soj/bk. Which means less damage


You know, as a matter of fact, I believe it was me who invented spirit st on a hdin, back in 2004 somewhere there. The post is somewhere on diabloii.net , same account handle as here, but I can't remember my login email lol. Hdins were ALL using hoz then, never heard of anybody using spirit before me. I mean I may be wrong about that, but nobody gave me the idea for it lol. So yeah well I kinda own the spirit st thing

Quote (addone @ Oct 6 2022 02:45am)
It sounds like you don't understand basic maths and stat distribution and breakpoints

Why don't you add up the stats with ss vs spirit setup.

Just another armchair spawn.


Zz listen, I think your reading comprehension must be super poor, because you are only comparing a secondary setup to a focused setup. But anyway, I tell you what, why don't you show us your calculations and tell us why the stormshield setup is a bad setup?
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Oct 5 2022 10:13pm
Quote (thing @ Oct 5 2022 11:11pm)
Just get a fcr ring/amulet w/ str on it, or -req jewel stormshield


With hoto/ss/trangs you would be well over the cr cap, so I don't think there is a problem there

Hm, I didn't theorycraft that far on this. Just a few commonsensical details to look at. But tribids ARE ez to deal with. Tbh just use grief pb. But it's possible if I want to play as a hdin also. Probably something like this:

hoto or res/dex wizzy
ss
griffons
trangs
tg
dancer
fcr/str/dex/res rings

Honestly, I wasn't prescribing something to handle all situations, lol. I was just saying it was a simple way for pure vita dins to handle some MUs. Most of those are items found in a lot of shared stashes anyway, other than the circlet, which most people probably sell for cheap, so it is probably not even a fg heavy option. I know some people who build hdins only to hvh/hvn, and admittedly I usually use a coa/verdungos myself because I pub sometimes, but I was just theorycrafting a simpler way to get maxed mb/dr in case I decided to go the full vita route.



You know, as a matter of fact, I believe it was me who invented spirit st on a hdin, back in 2004 somewhere there. The post is somewhere on diabloii.net , same account handle as here, but I can't remember my login email lol. Hdins were ALL using hoz then, never heard of anybody using spirit before me. I mean I may be wrong about that, but nobody gave me the idea for it lol. So yeah well I kinda own the spirit st thing



Zz listen, I think your reading comprehension must be super poor, because you are only comparing a secondary setup to a focused setup. But anyway, I tell you what, why don't you show us your calculations and tell us why the stormshield setup is a bad setup?



If you are theorycrafting and wind up with stormshield on Paladin, you did it wrong.
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Oct 5 2022 10:16pm
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Oct 5 2022 06:06pm)
people thought that 10 year ago the game is way different now.

It’s really not.
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If you need dr on a pally you use Coa & or Dungos

If you’re using SS on a pally you did something wrong
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Oct 5 2022 11:17pm
Quote (thing @ Oct 6 2022 05:11pm)
Just get a fcr ring/amulet w/ str on it, or -req jewel stormshield


With hoto/ss/trangs you would be well over the cr cap, so I don't think there is a problem there

Hm, I didn't theorycraft that far on this. Just a few commonsensical details to look at. But tribids ARE ez to deal with. Tbh just use grief pb. But it's possible if I want to play as a hdin also. Probably something like this:

hoto or res/dex wizzy
ss
griffons
trangs
tg
dancer
fcr/str/dex/res rings

Honestly, I wasn't prescribing something to handle all situations, lol. I was just saying it was a simple way for pure vita dins to handle some MUs. Most of those are items found in a lot of shared stashes anyway, other than the circlet, which most people probably sell for cheap, so it is probably not even a fg heavy option. I know some people who build hdins only to hvh/hvn, and admittedly I usually use a coa/verdungos myself because I pub sometimes, but I was just theorycrafting a simpler way to get maxed mb/dr in case I decided to go the full vita route.



You know, as a matter of fact, I believe it was me who invented spirit st on a hdin, back in 2004 somewhere there. The post is somewhere on diabloii.net , same account handle as here, but I can't remember my login email lol. Hdins were ALL using hoz then, never heard of anybody using spirit before me. I mean I may be wrong about that, but nobody gave me the idea for it lol. So yeah well I kinda own the spirit st thing



Zz listen, I think your reading comprehension must be super poor, because you are only comparing a secondary setup to a focused setup. But anyway, I tell you what, why don't you show us your calculations and tell us why the stormshield setup is a bad setup?


Use your 20 something posts a year wisely. Because you are getting slammed by literally every user here. I believe I was first or one of the first to discover eth reapers on a2 merc that became standard, back then I had proof and did testing before I made it public. I didn't just ignorantly claim something on a whim.

You woke up one day and thought hey let me reinvent the wheel. Not based on any calculation, testing or any example other then I felt special. Now you want people to test your dumb idea for you LOL.

This post was edited by addone on Oct 5 2022 11:18pm
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Oct 14 2022 08:57pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Oct 6 2022 12:16pm)
It’s really not.
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If you need dr on a pally you use Coa & or Dungos

If you’re using SS on a pally you did something wrong


Stormshield is for maxed block. It is more difficult to get mb on base dex using a spirit setup. Been working OT after spending time on the ladder reset, so am too lazy to rerun the calculations rite now, but I remember I had all the numbers before I posted this thread and stormshield/circlet/arach > coa/dungos/spirit by a small margin for full mb/dr setup
Quote (addone @ Oct 6 2022 01:17pm)
Use your 20 something posts a year wisely. Because you are getting slammed by literally every user here. I believe I was first or one of the first to discover eth reapers on a2 merc that became standard, back then I had proof and did testing before I made it public. I didn't just ignorantly claim something on a whim.

You woke up one day and thought hey let me reinvent the wheel. Not based on any calculation, testing or any example other then I felt special. Now you want people to test your dumb idea for you LOL.


Hm, lol you just sound like a crazy spawn that came from nowhere. It looks like you are only making broad claims and claiming they are substantiated, without substantiating them! I betcha ya can't afford therapy, and this is why u get emotional at all my posts here. Lol I just casually post a setup here, but nobody takes this game too seriously, maybe only you, because you immediately get uptight over this and all my other posts. Wowzer. Can we ban stalkers in here
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Oct 14 2022 09:24pm
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Stormshield is for maxed block. It is more difficult to get mb on base dex using a spirit setup. Been working OT after spending time on the ladder reset, so am too lazy to rerun the calculations rite now, but I remember I had all the numbers before I posted this thread and stormshield/circlet/arach > coa/dungos/spirit by a small margin for full mb/dr setup

Uh, no, lol. Max block is incredibly easy to achieve on a pally, giving up all the benefits from a spirit to get max block incrementally easier is a terrible idea.

This post was edited by IgoSoHard on Oct 14 2022 09:24pm
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Quote (thing @ Oct 15 2022 03:57pm)
Stormshield is for maxed block. It is more difficult to get mb on base dex using a spirit setup. Been working OT after spending time on the ladder reset, so am too lazy to rerun the calculations rite now, but I remember I had all the numbers before I posted this thread and stormshield/circlet/arach > coa/dungos/spirit by a small margin for full mb/dr setup

Hm, lol you just sound like a crazy spawn that came from nowhere. It looks like you are only making broad claims and claiming they are substantiated, without substantiating them! I betcha ya can't afford therapy, and this is why u get emotional at all my posts here. Lol I just casually post a setup here, but nobody takes this game too seriously, maybe only you, because you immediately get uptight over this and all my other posts. Wowzer. Can we ban stalkers in here


You are reaching soo hard, stalking LOL :rofl: Some of us have a brain and eyes looking at account and posts and do a quick 5th grader maths will determine how many posts you do a year. But you evidently don't do maths hence your little Timmy build and other people to test it for you. Grab a calculator you lazy bum it's not hard what are you in your 30's by now?
Yikes.

This post was edited by addone on Oct 14 2022 11:37pm
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Quote (IgoSoHard @ Oct 15 2022 11:24am)
Uh, no, lol. Max block is incredibly easy to achieve on a pally, giving up all the benefits from a spirit to get max block incrementally easier is a terrible idea.


I mean like some people actually want those last few stat points for caster pvp. Nothing in str or dex at all. But admittedly it's at most a niche setup

Quote (addone @ Oct 15 2022 01:34pm)
You are reaching soo hard, stalking LOL :rofl: Some of us have a brain and eyes looking at account and posts and do a quick 5th grader maths will determine how many posts you do a year. But you evidently don't do maths hence your little Timmy build and other people to test it for you. Grab a calculator you lazy bum it's not hard what are you in your 30's by now?
Yikes.


Takes literally a few minutes to rewrite the numbers here, but shiet this is really boring me
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