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Oct 4 2022 01:08pm
Quote (Dolphy @ Oct 4 2022 01:53pm)
you should max telekinesis before your last synergy. how much es do you end up with?

swap your tri res boots for aldurs. keep spurs and a rare light/cold res boot in stash. don't rely on fhr from your boots, you want to swap them without losing an fhr frame.

personally I'd either sacrifice some dmg and put enough hard points to reach 90-95 with just memory prebuff (swap es cta for a 1h+spirit), OR, go full vita. low es with full vita isn't great



sigh


Lvl 18 ES / 73% absorb. As for boots, I can swap according, but still stick to 86 fhr (with scs or gcs)

For Energy vs Vita, which is the better build? I'm still new to FB sorc. I know for 2.4, the 95 es build had all mana, but i would like damage on my char, but not sure if its still correct to go pure energy.
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Oct 4 2022 06:05pm
Your damage is not relevant because it will rarely help you

You are basically comparing 95% es with 75% es (at high level you can max all FB synergies plus max telekinesis, with low level ES). Technically you could still get 95% ES with prebuffing if you swap charms and gear, but that's a huge hassle. The main difference is whether you max your last synergy or energy shield. There isn't really any other good option.

With 95% es you'll probably end up with 14-17k FB depending on your gear. With 75% es you can get max damage up to 24-26k

That sounds like a big damage difference, but the problem is that in both cases the damage is still too low. If you play ES FB a lot you'll find that in most matchups you will be playing hit and run most of the time, not chasing for a telestomp. Even with max fireball damage and 75% es with perfect gear (500k+ FG investment) pretty much any character will kill you in a straight up mouselock DPS race.

95% es build has an advantage because most of your damage goes to mana so you actually heal significantly during duels. This works incredibly well with hit and run play style because you'll basically never die unless you're opponent can land a combo of hits in a short period of time
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Oct 4 2022 06:10pm
Quote (newbiebasher @ Oct 4 2022 12:08pm)
Lvl 18 ES / 73% absorb. As for boots, I can swap according, but still stick to 86 fhr (with scs or gcs)

For Energy vs Vita, which is the better build? I'm still new to FB sorc. I know for 2.4, the 95 es build had all mana, but i would like damage on my char, but not sure if its still correct to go pure energy.


Vita is not a playable build in PVP unless you are using a GM ruleset that specifically balances for it. ES is way way way stronger because it makes changes you from being the squishiest build in the game, all the way to being arguably the tankiest build in the entire game

Losing half your damage is no big deal if you opponent can never kill you. Doubling your damage also doesn't matter if you lose so much tankiness that enemies can suddenly start killing you with a few hits, when previously you could run away after any hit and regen your mana
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Oct 5 2022 02:15am
Quote (newbiebasher @ Oct 5 2022 03:08am)
Lvl 18 ES / 73% absorb. As for boots, I can swap according, but still stick to 86 fhr (with scs or gcs)

For Energy vs Vita, which is the better build? I'm still new to FB sorc. I know for 2.4, the 95 es build had all mana, but i would like damage on my char, but not sure if its still correct to go pure energy.


Hi there !!! I would assume you are looking for a pvp build.
Just to share some info i personally tested on FHR. I have tried having my friend use smite/mindblast on both 0fhr & 86fhr post 2.4 changes. There seem to be no noticeable difference in terms of gameplay and response time when trying to perform an action. You will always be able to teleport or cast a spell after the first stun fhr sequence. This should open up quite abit of gear options for you if you choose to go with 0fhr.

Building a es fb sorc really depends on your desired gameplay, do you want to go for a rep/regen,chipping away opponent's life when opportunity comes or heavy hitting with just enough dmg mitigation where you try to kill them in afew hits. This would greatly affect your gearing.

With that said.
There is also an option to try for maxblock es/80% non-prebuff es or a combination of both. They provide alot more survivability without affecting your fb damage too much.
Imho, fb damage is often overlooked for increase to survivability, more hp/mana/resist/dr etc...by having something that hits opponent hard it usually puts them into defensive mode and spend more time/concentration on dodging your projectiles, which means less focus on actually killing you.
Life is also something to think about, the more life you have, the less vulnerable you are to unfavourable matchups.
If you are primarily playing pub games you dont actually need a high mana pool because u can spam mana pots.


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Oct 5 2022 09:27am
Go 95es. Only good es build vs all
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Oct 5 2022 05:35pm
any non 95 es build needs res vs elemental chars such as trappers
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Oct 5 2022 11:31pm
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Oct 5 2022 06:50am)
shouldn't you have some form of damage taken goes to mana if you are going all in to vit?


Bro just stop.
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Oct 6 2022 03:05am
Quote (addone @ Oct 5 2022 10:31pm)
Bro just stop.


i admitted my mistake in case you can't read. so why don't you go suck on something.
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Oct 6 2022 03:21am
Quote (L8knightResurrected @ Oct 6 2022 10:05pm)
i admitted my mistake in case you can't read. so why don't you go suck on something.


Every thread you give the dumbest advice
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Oct 6 2022 03:41am
Quote (addone @ Oct 6 2022 02:21am)
Every thread you give the dumbest advice


that was a question! i wasn't sure how important damage taken goes to mana is when it comes to energy shield. then i saw that enigma has that on it and i realized my question was irrelevant.
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