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Jun 11 2022 06:28pm
Quote (ArcaneEcho @ Jun 11 2022 12:39pm)
do you by chance have the build?
I know stormlash and duress/ up'd gores drac gloves

but some people are using guilliuames and other peoples kiras with 2x angelics

should I be using Guilliuames+ ravenfrost and angelic ammy?
or kiras 2x angelic ring?


I was curious so I did some testing and made a vid of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwMBKoCG2es
the runs could have been cleaner ofc but I think it's pretty close to accurate
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Jun 11 2022 06:47pm
Quote (phdinprocrastination @ Jun 12 2022 11:28am)
I was curious so I did some testing and made a vid of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwMBKoCG2es
the runs could have been cleaner ofc but I think it's pretty close to accurate
lmk if you have questions


So i watched a few videos, and including izual, lilith, and the big sand boss in act two + uber trist the assassin can do it in 58 seconds from start to finish.

They use the atma amulet to get amplify damage which makes them able to one shot when it procs, also I noticed that they don't do singular bosses they just run down the middle and 1v3, I think they use enigma/arachnids for the fcr teleport breakpoint, but one would argue that duress would be quicker clear times. and budget friendly.
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Jun 11 2022 06:54pm
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So i watched a few videos, and including izual, lilith, and the big sand boss in act two + uber trist the assassin can do it in 58 seconds from start to finish.

They use the atma amulet to get amplify damage which makes them able to one shot when it procs, also I noticed that they don't do singular bosses they just run down the middle and 1v3, I think they use enigma/arachnids for the fcr teleport breakpoint, but one would argue that duress would be quicker clear times. and budget friendly.


the +strength and +2 skills adds a lot more damage than duress does, especially with gores/gloves/gface/weapon. at a certain point more crushing blow doesn't do as much.
i think fortitude would be a much better option if you don't want to go for enigma for mobility. enigma is slightly less damage than fort but not much.
atma's could be good but i think vs ubers you really need the bonus AR from angelic's set for the kill speed. it gets to like 70~ or lower chance to hit without it.
another interesting weapon option i've seen is lacerator, which provides 33% ctc amp, but no crushing blow. might be a good option with durress if you're insistent on using that.
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the +strength and +2 skills adds a lot more damage than duress does, especially with gores/gloves/gface/weapon. at a certain point more crushing blow doesn't do as much.
i think fortitude would be a much better option if you don't want to go for enigma for mobility. enigma is slightly less damage than fort but not much.
atma's could be good but i think vs ubers you really need the bonus AR from angelic's set for the kill speed. it gets to like 70~ or lower chance to hit without it.
another interesting weapon option i've seen is lacerator, which provides 33% ctc amp, but no crushing blow. might be a good option with durress if you're insistent on using that.


I think because you're essentially hitting 3x quicker then a paladin that you still get enough kicks in without angelics.
The guy who did the ubers in under a minute did it with stormlash but I think he beat his record by using enigma/ last wish pb, and faith bow on act1 merc.
I definetly think the atma amulet is better but you definetly need to set some ar, somewhere

also he is using laying of hands glove % dmg to demons
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Jun 11 2022 07:07pm
Quote (ArcaneEcho @ Jun 11 2022 09:00pm)
I think because you're essentially hitting 3x quicker then a paladin that you still get enough kicks in without angelics.
The guy who did the ubers in under a minute did it with stormlash but I think he beat his record by using enigma/ last wish pb, and faith bow on act1 merc.
I definetly think the atma amulet is better but you definetly need to set some ar, somewhere

also he is using laying of hands glove % dmg to demons


loh doesn't help with dmg sadly. if you need 20 ias it would, and the fire res is certainly nice.
i did ubers in like 30 seconds with my dual claw build btw - a lot more budget friendly this time
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6h6dBCgXQbI

also he prebuffed with demon limb which provides a nice ar boost(218% - huge), that's what really did it imo. our builds are very similar, just getting the same stats from different sources

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Jun 11 2022 07:45pm
Quote (phdinprocrastination @ Jun 11 2022 09:07pm)
loh doesn't help with dmg sadly. if you need 20 ias it would, and the fire res is certainly nice.
i did ubers in like 30 seconds with my dual claw build btw - a lot more budget friendly this time
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6h6dBCgXQbI

also he prebuffed with demon limb which provides a nice ar boost(218% - huge), that's what really did it imo. our builds are very similar, just getting the same stats from different sources


actually that dbrunski video was made when kick was bugged and hitting 100% of the time like smite does, same with the coooley vid
pretty sure it was fixed in 2.4
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Jun 11 2022 08:05pm
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actually that dbrunski video was made when kick was bugged and hitting 100% of the time like smite does, same with the coooley vid
pretty sure it was fixed in 2.4



oh so angelic is kind of the way now? was watching your videos very interesting setups

Do you think guilliume helm is a must have? the sin gear I bought the guy had a kiras, he said that he hated the uber sin because it was so squishy and he died with it alot.

I don't see how its physically possible to die with it however, esp with lifetap.
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Jun 11 2022 08:09pm
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oh so angelic is kind of the way now? was watching your videos very interesting setups

Do you think guilliume helm is a must have? the sin gear I bought the guy had a kiras, he said that he hated the uber sin because it was so squishy and he died with it alot.

I don't see how its physically possible to die with it however, esp with lifetap.


with duress you probably don't need gface, but 35% cb is pretty huge. you might be better off running gface + sanc shield for the huge res boost
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Jun 11 2022 08:16pm
Quote (phdinprocrastination @ Jun 12 2022 01:09pm)
with duress you probably don't need gface, but 35% cb is pretty huge. you might be better off running gface + sanc shield for the huge res boost


Was going to run stormshield with max block

The build I bought was 2x angelic/ Kiras (ral'd and pdiamond stormshield stormlash shael)
But I was thinking duress/Guilliaume/ 1x Raven 1x angelic ring+ammy

either way the build works yeah?
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