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Upload another clips. Good demo of why I choose the Thundergod vigor over Razortail
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Jun 19 2022 04:10pm
Quote (chime0515 @ Jun 17 2022 11:10am)
interesting.. I never thought of that. I can give it a try anyway.

But a problem is it will need 78% IAS to get the 11f speed while demon machine only need 10% IAS

And without the explosive bolt +pierce + enchant synergy I guess the dmg will be significantly less. I think the real magic come from the explosive bolt, because when bolt explode it apply the enchant fire damage again.

Any suggestion welcome


Well melee will deal the fire and light dmg twice.
The warshrike has 50% pierce, dagger also has 30ias.
Nova deal a little dmg as well.
2 x dream is also way more dmg than 1 x dream.

But yes, ofc the explotion is more aoe dmg.
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Quote (gel87 @ Jun 19 2022 03:10pm)
Well melee will deal the fire and light dmg twice.
The warshrike has 50% pierce, dagger also has 30ias.
Nova deal a little dmg as well.
2 x dream is also way more dmg than 1 x dream.

But yes, ofc the explotion is more aoe dmg.


i haven't gave it a try. because i found the dex requirement is a bit high. but it looks like a really interesting alt!
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Jun 19 2022 04:23pm
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I play on console and never try pvp. Please let us know if this work well XD


Dont need to try
Its bad
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Jun 19 2022 11:34pm
I built one and have been playing a little. I also went with 80%es and gave her 100points to have more mana. But i use cta instead of beast on switch.
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I built one and have been playing a little. I also went with 80%es and gave her 100points to have more mana. But i use cta instead of beast on switch.


interesting. CTA vs Bear, both have high and safe hp. Do you think CTA work well? i can give it a try as well

btw my latest version, giving this build about 715 mana. I think it work really well with max warmth
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Quote (chime0515 @ 20 Jun 2022 07:58)
interesting. CTA vs Bear, both have high and safe hp. Do you think CTA work well? i can give it a try as well
btw my latest version, giving this build about 715 mana. I think it work really well with max warmth


With bo from cta i have 2264 life and 1672 mana (while using demon machine). She is very hard to kill.

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With bo from cta i have 2264 life and 1672 mana (while using demon machine). She is very hard to kill.


if using the CTA, will the atk speed lower than Beast? also i miss 20%cb from the Beast

I kind of feel the Bear form vs bosses is the coolest part in this build. have you try the beast version?

I feel 750 mana is safe enough in this build. Im now having 2.9k hp in bear form.

Def can have more hp. I am using only 4 plain lightning GCs and still have 3 column spaces in bag for pickup loots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8TSMZ0T0Yg
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Quote (chime0515 @ 20 Jun 2022 08:22)
if using the CTA, will the atk speed lower than Beast? also i miss 20%cb from the Beast
I kind of feel the Bear form vs bosses is the coolest part in this build. have you try the beast version?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8TSMZ0T0Yg


I don't know about the new bear speed, but beast is very slow.
Yeah, before building this one she was a bear sorc. But bear sorc is very bad in the new version, because they changed the attack speed and now attacks very slow.
See how fast is bear in old d2:



Also i would go with only 2 columns for items.
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Yeah I know bear sorc used to have crazy atk speed. This build just trying to have fun on both melee and ranger at the same time (and without any prebuff required)
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