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#11
Jun 4 2022 03:34pm
ok budget build i guess, but i'd rather just go tals esfb if i wanted a budget pvp sorc

Quote (emptyfolder @ 4 Jun 2022 09:12)

Overall sorcs are bad for pvp, also all other classes use vita don’t they haha
Necro can’t use infernos vs vita sorcs and 3.7k life is same as a necro, so the matchup is on a skill basis, not stats
Same for Ele Druid - skill cap
Assassin - a nightmare doesn’t matter what sorc you are, especially when Shadow Warrior has 30% to be fire immune
Hammer duels are non existent since 2008, but tell me what sorc es or not es can tank more than 3 ?

It’s not the choice of vitality sorceress bad - it’s the class itself, though it’s fun and much more rewarding when you win an uphill battle


also this, is just plain incorrect
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#12
Jun 4 2022 05:37pm
Quote (Bugeater @ Jun 4 2022 04:34pm)
ok budget build i guess, but i'd rather just go tals esfb if i wanted a budget pvp sorc



also this, is just plain incorrect



You’re a real life season ending cliffhanger, if it’s incorrect - correct me, I have several statements in the paragraph you quoted.

Also you’re twisting my words one the “budged” this is budget compared to ES build, I’m not talking jumping from MFing keys to going into a duel game.

This is a guide not a horoscope, you can use whatever build you want the end

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#13
Jun 4 2022 05:59pm
One thing is reminding me of something.
I don't know if 1 point in vitality for Sorceress still gives 2 life,
but if so let's say for example if you could choose between boots giving you 20str or 65life, which ones would you choose for more life?
These all str items seems to be stupid choices if the point is just to get more hard points into vitality.

This post was edited by RaBBit3x on Jun 4 2022 06:00pm
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Jun 4 2022 06:40pm
Quote (RaBBit3x @ Jun 4 2022 06:59pm)
One thing is reminding me of something.
I don't know if 1 point in vitality for Sorceress still gives 2 life,
but if so let's say for example if you could choose between boots giving you 20str or 65life, which ones would you choose for more life?
These all str items seems to be stupid choices if the point is just to get more hard points into vitality.


1 Strength = 1 Vitality = 2 pts of Life

Treks give you 15 str and 15 vita, I need this str either way, either clicking it or from the boots thus giving me 30 Vita = 60 Life. You can use Waterwalks for Fire vs Fire, but you lose 1 fhr breakpoint, which at this point I can NOT tell if its better. Will test in duels at some point.
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#15
Jun 4 2022 07:14pm
it's a solid build in the right hand

skill > all
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#16
Jun 5 2022 03:29am
Why not obsession

More skills equal stats 25% life

I wouldn’t play vita though, might swell go 50/50 since you can max tk while maxing all fire synergies and you can reach 3k life 3k mana anyway with 23k dmg

Also aldur > treks

This post was edited by Stefbef on Jun 5 2022 03:30am
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#17
Jun 5 2022 10:53am
Quote (Stefbef @ Jun 5 2022 04:29am)
Why not obsession

More skills equal stats 25% life

I wouldn’t play vita though, might swell go 50/50 since you can max tk while maxing all fire synergies and you can reach 3k life 3k mana anyway with 23k dmg

Also aldur > treks


WOW, creating this on NL completely forgot about trying the new RW, and you are onto something, it is better, no we need to find a good 3/3/3 base to better damage wise
Also with Obsession - yes aldur > treks

Though I disagree about the ES here, if a Vita sorc can reach up to 4400 life and a massive hydra damage, why go ES ?
I've played thousands of ES matchups its not that better to sacrifice Hydra when I use Hydra to finish up most of my duels. If you want we can duel on NL to show you how obnoxiously annoying Hydra is
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#18
Jun 5 2022 05:10pm
Why bother with a Jah shako if you're gonna get 1 shotted anyway? Wouldn't flickering flame be better?
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Jun 5 2022 06:57pm
Quote (chaoschaoschaos @ Jun 5 2022 06:10pm)
Why bother with a Jah shako if you're gonna get 1 shotted anyway? Wouldn't flickering flame be better?


how do u one shot 3.7k lfie hero ? Does that make druid and barbs 2 shots ?

Also no, flickering flame is not even good, thats only good rw for a fire druid pelt, nothing else
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Jun 5 2022 08:57pm
Quote (emptyfolder @ Jun 5 2022 08:57pm)
how do u one shot 3.7k lfie hero ? Does that make druid and barbs 2 shots ?

Also no, flickering flame is not even good, thats only good rw for a fire druid pelt, nothing else


I guess when I think vita I just associate it with glass and thought it might be better to deal so much damage that 1 telestomp gets the job done. But I'm also high and don't know much about sorcs.
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