Throw Barb Ias Breakpoints - Topic

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May 6 2022 08:48am

Quote (gel87 @ May 5 2022 04:16pm)

Yes

Beside using warshrike in main hand, adding ias with jewels could be useful to hit a new breakpoint ? I'm a bit confused with formulas

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May 6 2022 11:51am

Quote (Xhaan @ May 6 2022 04:48pm)

Beside using warshrike in main hand, adding ias with jewels could be useful to hit a new breakpoint ? I'm a bit confused with formulas

70ias = 4,5 fpa on -20 wsm.
Warshrike 30 + hl 20 + loh 20 = 70

120ias = 4 fpa on -20 wsm.
70 ias from gear above.
3 x ias jools in helm and ur at 115.
Nosferatus and ur at 125.

So 4,5 fpa is the new meta for throwbarb.
But 4 fpa is reach able.

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May 6 2022 11:53am

thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate it ! SO I'll stay at 4.5 fpa, 4 fpa seems too costly

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May 7 2022 03:30am

Quote (Xhaan @ May 6 2022 07:53pm)

thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate it ! SO I'll stay at 4.5 fpa, 4 fpa seems too costly

Yes i would do that too. However in pvp there is a huge difference between those two breakpoints, but now with added pierce and less stun it should not matter as much, and one May go for more flexibility.

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May 7 2022 03:31am

In order to stunlock ?

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May 7 2022 03:39am

Quote (Xhaan @ May 7 2022 11:31am)

In order to stunlock ?

Yes. But stunlock is ruined now.

More:
Knockack
dmg stun
Fbr animation
Faster summon/meat shield removal
Faster amp trigger

But now it pierce (summon removal faster)
Stun cannot stun as often as you shot anymore anyway.

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May 7 2022 03:41am

I'd be curious to see how the build perform in PvP, throw barb is not something that you see so often. Probably a sub-bowzon no ?

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May 7 2022 05:24am

Quote (gel87 @ 5 May 2022 15:31)

There is a lot of mistakes in the answere in this topic... The skill standard attack is first of all not working the same as double throw.

What is new is that offhand wep wsm no longer matters.

Ias on offhand does not count either. And never has.

So main hand wep wsm is your wsm, period.

You can use this formula:

Double throw / frenzy:
Vincrease doublethrow/frenzy =floor(70-wsm+SIAS+(120*ias/(120+ias));1)
This has a cap of 150.

Fpa:
Double throw:
=ceiling(256*12/floor(256*Vincr/100;1);1)/2

This is how u find ias needed to reach VINC breakpoint:
Frenzy/double throw:
=ceiling(120*(Vinc-70-SIAS+WSM)/(120-(Vinc-70-SIAS+WSM));1)

Quote (SpAz. @ 7 May 2022 12:02)

Are you sure about that? source?

I'm in game now using Lacerator winged axe 30ias [-10] and a eth magic hyperion javelin 0ias off hand [-10].
treachery (45) + LoH (20) + HL (20) =115 ias.

I'm definitely slower dual throwing if I use same gear, lac mainhand, and use my cruel spiculum [20] off-hand.

????

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May 7 2022 05:51am

im interested to know how it works

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May 7 2022 06:48am

Quote (Goomshill @ 7 May 2022 13:51)

im interested to know how it works

yes
its hard to tell just by going of sound what frame im at, cuz its so fast, but there IS a difference between wearing a slower/faster weapon boot side off hand, when wearing lacerator.

rn i have no tables or ias to go after to decide weapons or gear :|

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