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Feb 2 2022 09:46pm
Quote (WiseWolf @ Feb 2 2022 11:42am)
this is really bad

elemental damage = trash damage

the devs are trying to make d2 easier by adding more elemental damage to pretty much everything so no skill newgens can play and feel nostalgia and actually get threw teh game once.

what you should focus on is physical damage, this build is going to be total trash in full games clearing chaos or baal or trav and will fail badly in pk. also a zealer is really bad at pvm and worse a pk so it has no real use unless you only want to dual other zealers.


newgens are like "lets reinvent the wheel"

d2 is 21 years old zealers + holy freeze are not new and they are extremely ineffective thats why no one uses them.


1) its not trying to be a pvp build

2) physical zeal isnt the best build in full games either. none of it competes for clear speed with sorcs/hammers etc.

3) it is just for fun to do something unusual in a 22 year old game, not to make the best build in the game :)

4) d2 has no win condition...might surprise you and your angry bb energy but everyone gets to set their own goals for fun in the game.
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Feb 10 2022 01:16am
This sounds really fun, I love auras, and like to make diferrent combination of aura paladins.

I totally agree with you, it's a game with more than two decades and many here play it frequently since the beginning, stopping a few months but always returning.

most here have done almost all the more conventional optimized builds, so doing a few different builds, albeit a little less efficient, can be fun.

what do you think about mixing holy freeze and dual dream? like a god of tempest paladin lol, the fury of cold and lighting, this build has remaining skill points to put in resist light I think.

It will lose cold dmg, but get a level 30 holy shock wih the synergies.

Do you think it would be worse than the pure cold? or similar?
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Feb 10 2022 10:42am
Quote (TheKarnak @ Feb 9 2022 11:16pm)
This sounds really fun, I love auras, and like to make diferrent combination of aura paladins.

I totally agree with you, it's a game with more than two decades and many here play it frequently since the beginning, stopping a few months but always returning.

most here have done almost all the more conventional optimized builds, so doing a few different builds, albeit a little less efficient, can be fun.

what do you think about mixing holy freeze and dual dream? like a god of tempest paladin lol, the fury of cold and lighting, this build has remaining skill points to put in resist light I think.

It will lose cold dmg, but get a level 30 holy shock wih the synergies.

Do you think it would be worse than the pure cold? or similar?


my Triune zealot build does this

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89304570&f=87

the damage is slightly lower but you get 3 damage types which is nice.

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Feb 10 2022 12:41pm
Quote (Gwala @ Feb 10 2022 01:42pm)
my Triune zealot build does this

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=89304570&f=87

the damage is slightly lower but you get 3 damage types which is nice.


cool, I saw that, I always thought about a build like that, always loved the holy freeze and how pathetic the monster get while in its area. I know the most effective thing would be a high physical dmg weapon like grief so you also have a decent physical dmg and leech.

But what do you think about a perfect azurewrath with a nice jewel for the rule of cool? holy freeze, holy shock and sanctuary all together.

This post was edited by TheKarnak on Feb 10 2022 12:43pm
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Feb 10 2022 07:21pm
Quote (TheKarnak @ Feb 10 2022 10:41am)
cool, I saw that, I always thought about a build like that, always loved the holy freeze and how pathetic the monster get while in its area. I know the most effective thing would be a high physical dmg weapon like grief so you also have a decent physical dmg and leech.

But what do you think about a perfect azurewrath with a nice jewel for the rule of cool? holy freeze, holy shock and sanctuary all together.


it would be fine in hell. unfortunately 2ias short of max frames which would lose you a facet but it would work. ultra safe in say chaos with the holy freeze slow and sanctuary blasting out.

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Feb 10 2022 11:40pm
how does it do in p7 games solo?

also enigma for the magic find is maybe ok too
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Feb 11 2022 10:56am
Quote (Gwala @ Feb 10 2022 10:21pm)
it would be fine in hell. unfortunately 2ias short of max frames which would lose you a facet but it would work. ultra safe in say chaos with the holy freeze slow and sanctuary blasting out.


Now I'm thinking about another crazy thing, why I never saw a dreamer with a beast caduceus LOL

It's a bad idea? I also dont like pvm with weapons that aren't indestructible, but caduceus has pretty god durability (70), they are also prety fast weapons.

holy shock level 30, fanaticism level 9 and the aura da paladin choose as his main aura level 30, this without the merc.

Sounds really good, what you think?
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Feb 11 2022 11:51am
Quote (TheKarnak @ Feb 11 2022 08:56am)
Now I'm thinking about another crazy thing, why I never saw a dreamer with a beast caduceus LOL

It's a bad idea? I also dont like pvm with weapons that aren't indestructible, but caduceus has pretty god durability (70), they are also prety fast weapons.

holy shock level 30, fanaticism level 9 and the aura da paladin choose as his main aura level 30, this without the merc.

Sounds really good, what you think?


much much worse than grief only for style points. even with a +3 freeze scepter sadly

Quote (massmarines @ Feb 10 2022 09:40pm)
how does it do in p7 games solo?

also enigma for the magic find is maybe ok too


fine but aoe aura doesn't feel as strong obviously

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Feb 11 2022 11:57am
Quote (Gwala @ Feb 11 2022 02:51pm)
much much worse than grief only for style points.



fine but aoe aura doesn't feel as strong obviously


I see, a last wish phase blade would be bad? to little physical dmg and a little slow (I always think its crazy that a weapon expansive as last wish dont have ias) ?

I'm trying to think about a good aura weapon so the char has 3 auras lol, but everything fells so weak when we compare with the almight Grief

(I'm talking about the holy freeze dreamer version, not the pure cold)

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Feb 11 2022 12:12pm
Quote (TheKarnak @ Feb 11 2022 09:57am)
I see, a last wish phase blade would be bad? to little physical dmg and a little slow (I always think its crazy that a weapon expansive as last wish dont have ias) ?

I'm trying to think about a good aura weapon so the char has 3 auras lol, but everything fells so weak when we compare with the almight Grief

(I'm talking about the holy freeze dreamer version, not the pure cold)


azurewrath is probably one of the better options if you just want the weapon aura

you are fighting to get good speed without fanat so your options are very limited, ideally need something in a phase base that can also have ias.
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