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Dec 1 2020 11:12am
Quote (PlainOx @ 1 Dec 2020 17:51)
6/40, 2/10 amu, soj + raven, 20/20 monarch, rbf in griff:
1-9846 (lvl 49) +40% light damage = 1-13784,4 (6892,7 avg) 12 bolts -130 lr 3,12 attacks per sec ==> 6892,7*12 * 1,8 * 3,12 = 464512,8 dmg per sec

6/40, highlords, soj + raven, 20/20 monarch, ias jwl in griff:
1-9594 (lvl 48) +35% light damage = 1-12951,9 (6476,5 avg) 12 bolts -125 lr 3,57 attacks per sec ==> 6476,5*12 *1,75 * 3,57 = 485539,5 dmg per sec

you can theorycraft with fana and lower resist, but you will probably mostly find yourself without either at baal

you said you dont want 20/20 armor but i still want to do the calculation, so ignore this i guess:
4/40, 2 ama tele charges amu, soj + raven, 20/20 monarch, rbf in griff:
1-8838 (lvl 45) +60% light damage = 1-14140,8 (7070,9 avg) 12 bolts -150 lr 3,12 attacks per sec ==> 7070,9*12 * 2 * 3,12 = 529469,0 dmg per sec

6/40, 2 ama tele charges amu, soj + raven, 20/20 monarch, rbf in griff:
1-9342 (lvl 47) +60% light damage = 1-14947,2 (7474,1 avg) 12 bolts -150 lr 3,12 attacks per sec ==> 7474,1*12 * 2 * 3,12 = 559660,6 dmg per sec

in the end you have to find some build that suits you, i personally dont think you need to teleport in throne that much, so fcr is not needed at all and eni is optional, but that doesnt fit everyones playstyle. java in baalruns without teleport at all is autodelete though :D


hi i did the thing on the top now, its awesome but i changed raven to soj

now i have 2x soj (or bk) and cham in my griffon

i lose 1 facet but that 1 extra skill from soj makes me get 13 bolts instead of 12 bolts on cs

seems worth it to me ^^




should be this now:

1-10098 (lvl 50) +35% light damage = 1-13632,3 (6816,6 avg) 13 bolts -125 lr 3,12 attacks per sec = 483842,2 per second

with fana:

1-10098 (lvl 50) +35% light damage = 1-13632,3 (6816,6 avg) 13 bolts -125 lr 3,57 attacks per sec = 553627,2 per second

This post was edited by Stefbef on Dec 1 2020 11:24am
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If only baal and u dont need to tele a lot, would not be better to use whale armor 4xfaceted and +2 ama amu with stats and teleport charges (just to jump on baal and CS him)?
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Quote (Wisteria @ 1 Dec 2020 19:36)
If only baal and u dont need to tele a lot, would not be better to use whale armor 4xfaceted and +2 ama amu with stats and teleport charges (just to jump on baal and CS him)?


well ye its probably better indeed ^^ but im not sure if repairing that thing compared to the value you get out of is worth it

but yeah you're right i asked for the best setup, so thats the best setup im just taking a bit more lazy one i guess
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Quote (Stefbef @ Dec 1 2020 11:52pm)
well ye its probably better indeed ^^ but im not sure if repairing that thing compared to the value you get out of is worth it

but yeah you're right i asked for the best setup, so thats the best setup im just taking a bit more lazy one i guess


I think there would be not much difference because java is overkill already... but yes just saying.

mmm, if going for the best just for baal task... then go full dex too, so u do lot of phys dmg with CS too xD (If good eth ed ctc amplify javelins etc the phys damage is pretty high... can be like 15k from my tests)
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Quote (Wisteria @ Dec 2 2020 12:30am)
I think there would be not much difference because java is overkill already... but yes just saying.

mmm, if going for the best just for baal task... then go full dex too, so u do lot of phys dmg with CS too xD (If good eth ed ctc amplify javelins etc the phys damage is pretty high... can be like 15k from my tests)


But i guess tstrokes or +6 java are better cos those do way more light dmg...
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Quote (Wisteria @ 2 Dec 2020 00:30)
I think there would be not much difference because java is overkill already... but yes just saying.

mmm, if going for the best just for baal task... then go full dex too, so u do lot of phys dmg with CS too xD (If good eth ed ctc amplify javelins etc the phys damage is pretty high... can be like 15k from my tests)


ah but 6/40 javas have almost no physical damage :/
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Quote (Stefbef @ Dec 2 2020 12:32am)
ah but 6/40 javas have almost no physical damage :/


Yes... and +6/40 are better anyway, more light dmg.

Maybe with tstrokes it would be worth it because phys dmg on those is not 'that' low...
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