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May 27 2019 05:18pm
Quote (kronosHardcore @ May 27 2019 04:07pm)
trust me, we dont need to watch the vids and test chars to understand what is better, what is worse


erm i didnt say this is better? if min/maxing is ur thing, i guess so be it. this is unconventional outside of the cookie-cutter build and i think way more fun to play than these cookie cutters that I have so played for so long

Quote (Chainsaw47 @ May 27 2019 04:16pm)
No one in America ever thought about slapping a Grief on a hammerdin, congratulations.


i never said anything about using grief - that was comment by someone else
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May 27 2019 05:20pm
Quote (gl2u81 @ May 27 2019 07:18pm)

i never said anything about using grief - that was comment by someone else


Yet it performs better than your build. Or is it not something people do in Korea?
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May 27 2019 05:21pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ May 27 2019 04:20pm)
Yet it performs better than your build. Or is it not something people do in Korea?


i dunno - u go ask, i live in US

some severe digression here with grief... :baby:
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May 27 2019 05:23pm
Quote (gl2u81 @ May 27 2019 07:21pm)
i dunno - u go ask, i live in US

some severe digression here with grief... :baby:



It’s better than your build.
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May 27 2019 05:28pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ May 27 2019 04:23pm)
It’s better than your build.


this isn't my build - just sharing an unconventional build that many ppl don't do

regardless, thnx for the love
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May 27 2019 05:30pm
Quote (gl2u81 @ May 27 2019 07:28pm)
this isn't my build - just sharing an unconventional build that many ppl don't do

regardless, thnx for the love



Why share bad builds?
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May 27 2019 05:32pm
its not bad its just unconventional

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May 27 2019 05:42pm
Quote (Chainsaw47 @ May 27 2019 04:30pm)
Why share bad builds?


obviously, ur focus is min/max... if the build isn't the most powerful build, it's a bad build...

sure - go ahead and have a hammerdin and a smiter separately and have them as most optimal build to be most effective as u min/max

if min/max is 100, this build provides hammerdin/smiter who are @ least 80 on both (probably more 90) on 1 char.

i TP around and hammer @ 13k and switch and smite stuff down pretty fast and farm uber no slower than a full smiter

in the end, i enjoy this and just sharing this unique build to others who will find curiosity to try something different than the same old shit that they have been doing for a while
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May 27 2019 05:48pm
Quote (gl2u81 @ May 28 2019 03:42am)
sure - go ahead and have a hammerdin and a smiter separately and have them as most optimal build to be most effective as u min/max

if min/max is 100, this build provides hammerdin/smiter who are @ least 80 on both (probably more 90) on 1 char.


it is possible to build hybrid which is 100% good for pvm and 100% good for pvu at the same time

Quote (gl2u81 @ May 28 2019 03:42am)
in the end, i enjoy this and just sharing this unique build to others who will find curiosity to try something different than the same old shit that they have been doing for a while


nothing is different in 20yo game

all is old in old game

and you are not unique person who wants "something different"
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May 27 2019 05:49pm
Quote (gl2u81 @ May 27 2019 07:42pm)
obviously, ur focus is min/max... if the build isn't the most powerful build, it's a bad build...

sure - go ahead and have a hammerdin and a smiter separately and have them as most optimal build to be most effective as u min/max

if min/max is 100, this build provides hammerdin/smiter who are @ least 80 on both (probably more 90) on 1 char.

i TP around and hammer @ 13k and switch and smite stuff down pretty fast and farm uber no slower than a full smiter

in the end, i enjoy this and just sharing this unique build to others who will find curiosity to try something different than the same old shit that they have been doing for a while


I’m not talking about making 2 characters, I’m saying you can have Grief in your stash as a Hammerdin and achieve the same result. Being at 80% efficiency for 99% of the game (i.e. when you need to use B.H.) isn’t "good", you’re just putting a handicap on a great build.
Where in the game do you need to use both B.H. and Smite in such a short interval that going back to your stash is an issue?
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