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Jul 23 2014 03:55pm
Suggestions? - Post here and help to improve the guide! :thumbsup:

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stupid rule sets for bad duellers that get owned by 5fg runewords
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Jul 24 2014 02:21am
nice guild

thx u2
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Jul 27 2014 04:36am
Quote (jshade @ 24 Jul 2014 00:20)
stupid rule sets for bad duellers that get owned by 5fg runewords


get out of here please. f***ing nazist.. :wallbash:

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Jul 27 2014 04:48am
Quote (jshade @ 24 Jul 2014 00:20)
stupid rule sets for bad duellers that get owned by 5fg runewords


Quote (Hamm @ 27 Jul 2014 12:36)
get out of here please. f***ing nazist.. :wallbash:


pscht

Quote (HellKnights @ 24 Jul 2014 10:21)
nice guild

thx u2


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Jul 28 2014 06:05am
You should add some insight on calculations imo.
BvB's choices of gear are 90% dictated on theorycraft and calcs, i think its quite important to show where the results come from

Like how eth-fools weapons without self repair << BotD, how arreats is not a good helm, how stats amus are not needed, which charms are best etc... Comparing the 3 most popular armours sets could be nice: Shaft+Jmod+dungo vs eni+ss+rare belt vs eth 2sox armour+ss+aow dungo
I made an excel file with all the possible variables and it works wonders ^^
(eth-self cruel weapons cant beat botd unless eth-self-rep-2sox btw, only eth-self-fools with 1 or 2 sox can)

You could also add a ffa section since it barely takes a small items swap to play normal bvb

Good guide all in all, it surely shows all your experience in the matter

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Quote (UberMensh @ 28 Jul 2014 14:05)
You should add some insight on calculations imo.
BvB's choices of gear are 90% dictated on theorycraft and calcs, i think its quite important to show where the results come from

Like how eth-fools weapons without self repair << BotD, how arreats is not a good helm, how stats amus are not needed, which charms are best etc... Comparing the 3 most popular armours sets could be nice: Shaft+Jmod+dungo vs eni+ss+rare belt vs eth 2sox armour+ss+aow dungo
I made an excel file with all the possible variables and it works wonders ^^
(eth-self cruel weapons cant beat botd unless eth-self-rep-2sox btw, only eth-self-fools with 1 or 2 sox can)

You could also add a ffa section since it barely takes a small items swap to play normal bvb

Good guide all in all, it surely shows all your experience in the matter


yes, i'm considering this as soon as i got time for it^^

well the ffa swap isn't that easy.
you need items that provide enough dex for MB if you switch to grief,forti, & Storm.
so usually a statdiadem is necessary after my experience, must have at least 30 dex + dex from the armor if you have it socket.
so in the worst case 48 dex ^^ but max 38 dex is possible on a circ for example :P
i'll work something out tho
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Jul 28 2014 07:08am
Quote (Breee @ Jul 28 2014 02:44pm)
yes, i'm considering this as soon as i got time for it^^

well the ffa swap isn't that easy.
you need items that provide enough dex for MB if you switch to grief,forti, & Storm.
so usually a statdiadem  is necessary after my experience, must have at least 30 dex + dex from the armor if you have it socket.
so in the worst case 48 dex ^^ but max 38 dex is possible on a circ for example :P
i'll work something out tho


well y, that lack of dext is a problem if you use botd as aow weapon or an armor with dext. A diadem is better than a 5bo visio if you plan to use a forti sa, but not needed if you want to save all those pts and use an ap (1908def vs 1666 i think, you have to see if its worth it)
the only way to swap without respec would be giving up the angelic set and... that wont have a good output in dmg ^^

I meant that you have to bring a token for such swaps, but its still a very similar build and worth mentioning when the general part is done ;)

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Quote (UberMensh @ 28 Jul 2014 15:08)
well y, that lack of dext is a problem if you use botd as aow weapon or an armor with dext. A diadem is better than a 5bo visio if you plan to use a forti sa, but not needed if you want to save all those pts and use an ap (1908def vs 1666 i think, you have to see if its worth it)
the only way to swap without respec would be giving up the angelic set and... that wont have a good output in dmg ^^

I meant that you have to bring a token for such swaps, but its still a very similar build and worth mentioning when the general part is done ;)


well you could get a diadem & stat a bit more dex, so it will suit if you swap.
if it is a 30+ dex diadem in total, you will need ~0-18 more dex, depends on your armor.

str isn't the problem at all, only the dex for MB
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Quote (Breee @ Jul 28 2014 04:15pm)
well you could get a diadem & stat a bit more dex, so it will suit if you swap.
if it is a 30+ dex diadem in total, you will need ~0-18 more dex, depends on your armor.

str isn't the problem at all, only the dex for MB


Well str can be a problem...
Your sources of str should be 70base+39ss+3xdiadem+20steelrend=169-177
You will n to stat some pts to wear steelrend but from 185 to 232 its a long way to go, and its not so easy to see if 240def can be better than ~450life
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