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Jan 6 2013 04:36pm
i read a bit, but the gear up vs smite made me stop

you want frw gear and 2 hander vs them

only strategy vs them is to hit and run, or even teleport away
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Jan 6 2013 04:44pm
Quote (john467 @ Jan 6 2013 05:36pm)
i read a bit, but the gear up vs smite made me stop

you want frw gear and 2 hander vs them

only strategy vs them is to hit and run, or even teleport away


i agree with the frw suggestion

i do not agree with the two handed wep suggestion

a smiter can decide to use charge and if they do, while your using a 2 handed wep, you would be screwed

teleporting away vs a smiter with a two handed wep is even more absurd considering if the smiter wasnt a newb , he most likely has you name locked by the time you unshift

charge is faster then a druids low fcr teleport, and to make it worse now that your unshifted your life is a ton less than it should be lol
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i agree with the frw suggestion

i do not agree with the two handed wep suggestion

a smiter can decide to use charge and if they do, while your using a 2 handed wep, you would be screwed

teleporting away vs a smiter with a two handed wep is even more absurd considering if the smiter wasnt a newb , he most likely has you name locked by the time you unshift

charge is faster then a druids low fcr teleport, and to make it worse now that your unshifted your life is a ton less than it should be lol


i am using a jmod on switch while using etomb (even when not lol) which keep me at 75% block
you use the 2 hander to hit the ennemy and once its done, you switch to mb

teleporting at low cast speed is still better to get away than the gear he is using

i personnaly uses 10x 3/5s cat eye, enigma, ik boots so i dont need to teleport

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i am using a jmod on switch while using etomb (even when not lol) which keep me at 75% block
you use the 2 hander to hit the ennemy and once its done, you switch to mb

teleporting at low cast speed is still better to get away than the gear he is using

i personnaly uses 10x 3/5s cat eye, enigma, ik boots so i dont need to teleport


hrm i'd still believe initially hitting with etomb is a bit too risky, but i guess it just comes down to preferance

i like your frw set up , only a few things i'd change

i'd honestly use bramble over enigma and a frw visionary circlet over jalal in a ss druid vs smiter situation

bramble, because a smiter who isn't a noob will stack their psn res and plr meaning one hit of rabies ( using enigma ) may not serve

frw visionary, for the loss of frw ( due to using bramble instead of enigma ) and the additional ar which helps for the initial contact

also if the smiter is using exile ( BM Whore ) i'd use doom zerk over ebotdz for the holy freeze aura. it slows them to the point where you dont even have to worry about smite stun unless they flop on their holy freeze. and if

they do their damage and ias will drop a ton.

Quote (Oilerfan @ Jan 3 2013 05:50pm)


90% of smiters etc try for a charge kill, 30% is plenty of frw to get out of the way of a stomp especially if you're already heading away from them. Either way though real lame duel.


Yes it is a lame duel , nonetheless pub games are full of smiters that love to challenge ss druids

30 frw will not serve unless the opponent is a complete newb which a ss druid shouldnt rely upon lol

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Jan 6 2013 07:35pm
nice guide, looks like it has everything you need if you want to make one of these and pretty easy to read :--)

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hrm i'd still believe initially hitting with etomb is a bit too risky, but i guess it just comes down to preferance

i like your frw set up , only a few things i'd change

i'd honestly use bramble over enigma  and a frw visionary circlet over jalal in a ss druid vs smiter situation

bramble, because a smiter who isn't a noob will stack their psn res and plr  meaning one hit of rabies ( using enigma ) may not serve

frw visionary, for the loss of frw ( due to using bramble instead of enigma ) and the additional ar which helps for the initial contact

also if the smiter is using exile ( BM Whore ) i'd use doom zerk over ebotdz for the holy freeze aura. it slows them to the point where you dont even  have to worry about smite stun unless they flop on their holy freeze. and if

they do their damage and ias will drop a ton.



Yes it is a lame duel , nonetheless pub games are full of smiters that love to challenge ss druids

30 frw will not serve unless the opponent is a complete newb which a ss druid shouldnt rely upon lol


i use etomb for huge range, alot less risky
i use coa for dr, not jalal or circlet, since i'm using a jmod and i will need more than 1 hit to kill the smiter (usually 2 or 3)
i prefer enigma to be able to teleport to fuck up smiter's mind and have that precious 45% frw
and ofc you won't kill it with 1 rabies, and you can cry if he skilled cleanse

and ofc, everything is str bugged so his charge lock may be sad

and a last comment on the guide

i also use frw gear vs zon with etomb

you run to them with jmod out to keep mb and when they start to flee, pull out that weapon, and they wont notice it (thanks to wolf form)

This post was edited by john467 on Jan 7 2013 12:26am
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Quote (FrausT @ Jan 6 2013 04:03pm)
What the.....

You decided to post it up after all eh?



Don't get me started with stash tetris...

...good plan also is to have your merc hold a bit of stuff, even though you will need to have gold to swap off of him multiple times (thank you goldfind barb).


I haven't decided to post it yet actually, bingbing is just lucky I like him ^^ may repost myself with red/bold if this gets enough positive feedback.

But yes a merc (More specifically act 3) is useful to hold extra gear.


As for the whole smiter debate, I tend to see it as ar vs frw (Via scs) and lean more towards the ar/life scs for a higher chance to hit. Visio circs with frw would be a neat little addition vs smiter but then you lose damage by dropping Jalal's and in my experience dropping below the 61k margin vs smiters makes it almost useless (I tend to go for 1 bite kill vs smiter if I can manage it) but vs exceptionally geared/skilled smiters/ v/t's it won't matter as they'll tank the rabies anyways and then smite you to death.

A nice bm setup a friend came up with worked out pretty nicely, Doom GPA, cleg's gloves, coa, nigma, mass slow and kb fury worked nice and is probably a top option for a pure fury vs smiter but for hybrid I felt rabies and run was superior.

Quote (Jeebus666 @ Jan 6 2013 08:35pm)
nice guide, looks like it has everything you need if you want to make one of these and pretty easy to read :--)


The almighty jeebus has spoken~

This post was edited by Oilerfan on Jan 7 2013 01:30am
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u had wharning :P
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Jan 25 2013 05:37pm
been to busy to bump, so bump now
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been to busy to bump, so bump now


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