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#11
Feb 14 2012 07:23am
Quote (DHA @ Feb 14 2012 12:53pm)
bad idea since you wont always use that ber/jew coa, you need at least the ber/lo so its a fail.



when u got lr build u have 80 res thats enough imo if u had a hs build i can understand but like i said i dont really need to change helms only other benifit is possibly not needing sorb vs trappers/ v/t and keeping max dmg since on lr build u can have 85% res vs these chars (though tg on its own is better since u get integer sorb and wisp + 80 res = roughly on par with tg i.e if dmg is over 8k then wisp + 80 does better) but outside of that it means u have to carry alot of different helms etc

i guess could give another test again but i did not like the idea of needing 3x different helms and it all depends as well on what a person can/can't afford

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#12
Feb 14 2012 07:28am
Quote (halo273 @ Feb 14 2012 02:23pm)
when u got lr build u have 80 res thats enough imo if u had a hs build i can understand but like i said i dont really need to change helms only other benifit is possibly not needing sorb vs trappers/ v/t and keeping max dmg since on lr build u can have 85% res vs these chars (though tg on its own is better since u get integer sorb and wisp + 80 res = roughly on par with tg) but outside of that it means u have to carry alot of different helms etc

i guess could give another test again but i did not like the idea of needing 3x different helms and it all depends as well on what a person can/can't afford


Dont really need the -req anyway, to get str bug you need enough str to wear ap eni before the +7x str from enigma.

So after you get enough to wear eni, the +7x str from enigma will give you enough str to wear a coa without a -req jewel.
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Feb 14 2012 07:32am
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Dont really need the -req anyway, to get str bug you need enough str to wear ap eni before the +7x str from enigma.

So after you get enough to wear eni, the +7x str from enigma will give you enough str to wear a coa without a -req jewel.



yeah i know this but u can still use a 7fhr jewel/dex/res etc which is what i was trying to debate + again depends on what ppl can/ can't afford and realm since i use bb myself however tested these other helm setups on the other hand someone on a realm with dungos and poorer equip may struggle to get the str without stating
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#14
Feb 14 2012 07:32am
everything is known for a long time now but gj for effort ^^
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Feb 14 2012 07:35am
Quote (halo273 @ Feb 14 2012 02:23pm)
when u got lr build u have 80 res thats enough imo  if u had a hs build i can understand but like i said i dont really need to change helms only other benifit is possibly not needing sorb vs trappers/ v/t and keeping max dmg since on lr build u can have 85% res vs these chars (though tg on its own is better since u get integer sorb and wisp + 80 res = roughly on par with tg i.e if dmg is over 8k then wisp + 80 does better) but outside of that it means u have to carry alot of different helms etc

i guess could give another test again but i did not like the idea of needing 3x different helms and it all depends as well on what a person can/can't afford


no its not enought as you said vs good trappers or even some light sorc. More flexibility without jool
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#16
Feb 14 2012 07:36am
Quote (halo273 @ Feb 14 2012 02:32pm)
yeah i know this but u can still use a 7fhr jewel/dex/res etc which is what i was trying to debate + again depends on what ppl can/ can't afford and realm since i use bb myself however tested these other helm setups on the other hand someone on a realm with dungos and poorer equip may struggle to get the str without stating


Maybe.. but well with dungo build the 7 fhr aint as good.

Quote (halo273 @ Feb 14 2012 01:29pm)
i personally use a ber/ -req jewel helm since u can gain -req/ 7fhr/9 dex/2x-30 cr or lr on a jewel saves you some stats + u dont need fhr sc and i tested with a ring with simular stats (10fcr/ 2xst/15dex 18+ hp) and found i gained more hp using ber/-req but also i use a lr build which means i dont need the other helms and vs ppl i need cbf i swap raven (you take a slight dip in dmg ) but it all depends i guess on prefference


Yea, but say vs druid trap team, you would like to use Lo + Cham coa + Wisp. If you use raven, you now either need to wear t-gods ( lose DR% ) or you dont get as much protection vs traps.

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Feb 14 2012 07:37am
Quote (Alone @ Feb 14 2012 01:32pm)
everything is known for a long time now but gj for effort ^^


i agree.. but i just wanted to write it down to maybe get a few less "HOW TO BUILD HAMMER" topics!
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Feb 14 2012 07:39am
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i agree.. but i just wanted to write it down to maybe get a few less "HOW TO BUILD HAMMER" topics!


You dont use ber/lo coa btw?

oh nvm brainlag xDDD forgot the raven part

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#19
Feb 14 2012 07:42am
xD

I reccon we used Cham Lo and wisp to keep the cnbf..

With Ber Lo and wisp u loose that :)

But ofc u give up some dmg reduce!

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#20
Feb 14 2012 07:43am
oink oink
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